gnome-volume-control missing ability to customize session sound effects theme

Bug #324700 reported by Rocko on 2009-02-03
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This bug affects 50 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
GNOME media utilities
New
Medium
gnome-media (Ubuntu)
High
Unassigned
Declined for Karmic by Sebastien Bacher
Declined for Lucid by Sebastien Bacher
Declined for Maverick by Sebastien Bacher

Bug Description

Binary package hint: gnome-media

In the latest gnome-media (2.25.5-0ubuntu1) in Jaunty, gnome-sound-preferences has been merged into gnome-volume-manager. But gnome-volume-manager is missing the adjustments for system events that were in gnome-sound-preferences.

See attached screenshots - the one from Intrepid has 'Alerts and Sounds' and allows the user to edit the sound files for various sounds (and to test play the sounds). The one from Jaunty only lets you select an alert sound (which doesn't seem to work, incidentally).

Specification: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/sound-theme-spec

Rocko (rockorequin) wrote :
Rocko (rockorequin) wrote :
Pedro Villavicencio (pedro) wrote :

We're currently using the same capplet than in intrepid so this shouldn't be an issue for Jaunty, but keeping the bug open to track it for jaunty+1, thanks.

Changed in gnome-media:
assignee: nobody → desktop-bugs
importance: Undecided → Low
status: New → Confirmed
Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

what setting is not available in the jaunty dialog exactly? note that the new capplet is also available there

Changed in gnome-media (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Incomplete
Rocko (rockorequin) wrote :

See the screenshots in the original report: gnome-sound-preferences has an 'Alerts and Sound Effects' list that lets you change the sounds for button clicks, login, logout, etc. gnome-volume-control in Jaunty has a 'Sound Theme' tab with only 'Choose an alert sound' and 'Choose a sound theme' selections. So g-v-c is missing the 'Sound Effects' part.

Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

jaunty uses what you call the intrepid dialog no?

Rocko (rockorequin) wrote :

Yes, I think it does. The problem is that Gnome 2.26 removed gnome-sound-preferences, but didn't move the 'Sound Effects' tab across to g-v-c, so they were missing. I opened this bug because of that. Then Ubuntu brought Intrepid's gnome-sound-preferences back into Jaunty, so this bug isn't relevant for Jaunty now, but it's being kept open to track for karmic (see comment #3).

Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

right so that's rather an upstream concern and should be sent to bugzilla.gnome.org

Changed in gnome-media (Ubuntu):
status: Incomplete → New
Max Bowsher (maxb) wrote :

Added tag regression-potential for Karmic as the old capplet is now gone and the removed functionality has not been preserved in the new volume control.

tags: added: regression-potential
Rocko (rockorequin) wrote :

It is definitely a problem in Karmic, so it is a regression.

Martin Erik Werner (arand) wrote :

Yes indeed, I have been tearing my hair lately to try to find a solution to this.
I normally disable login/out sounds and keep the rest of the system sounds.
Now this is seemingly impossible in Karmic.
Please, do something about this regression!

Changed in gnome-media (Ubuntu):
status: New → Confirmed
status: Confirmed → New
Changed in gnome-media (Ubuntu):
status: New → Triaged
komputes (komputes) on 2009-10-07
summary: - gnome-volume-control is missing system events sound adjustment
+ gnome-volume-control missing ability to customize session sound effects
+ theme
Marien Zwart (marienz) wrote :

Note that system -> preferences -> startup applications allows you to turn off "GNOME Login Sound", which I'm assuming covers the "disable login/out sounds and keep the rest of the system sounds" case (but does not let you do everything the old preferences panel did).

emarkay (mrk) wrote :

The annoting "ratt-attattt" drum sound issue is covered in this bug:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/437429

Which has IMHO wrongly been sidelined as "Wishlist".
Can someone with more authority than I ensure that this is actually addressed, reprioritized and corrected before RC? :)

Tuvic (tuvic) wrote :

This bug has now gone live 9.10. Users are now unable to change sounds through some GUI. I suggest changing the priority of this bug to something high. It's a real bad regresssion, that removes existing functionality. Not nice when upgrading.

Changed in gnome-media (Ubuntu):
importance: Low → Medium
pfrenssen (pieter-frenssen) wrote :

Is it possible to install the old gnome-sound-preferences? The current functionality is sorely lacking, users can only chose a theme or disable sounds completely but don't have any control over individual sound alerts.

The only partial solution for this so far is this one (http://www.rebelzero.com/tweaking/hacking-sound-themes-in-karmic/209) but anyway this is a damn f*** regression... God bless KDE.

tags: added: regression-release
removed: regression-potential

This is a pretty huge regression. I don't get how new final versions of Ubuntu keep getting released with major features that were present in prior versions completely missing. There should be a "no feature regression" policy when a new release comes out -- if a new version of an app doesn't have all the features of the old version, *don't upgrade it!*

wpshooter (joverstreet1) wrote :

+1

wpshooter (joverstreet1) wrote :

It is quite embarrassing to recommend Ubuntu to family, friends & neighbors and then have them ask you why they can not assign sounds to various system events like they could in M/S windows and then have to tell them that you are sorry but you can no longer do that in the latest versions of Ubuntu.

Yes, you could under the older versions but not under the newer versions.

And then you have to watch them figuratively scratch their heads and say well that really does not make any sense, why would it work under older versions and not under the newer versions and then you have to agree with them and wonder along with them if perhaps whoever is maintaining this software may not know what they are doing !!! And if something as basic as this does not function, then what'all else is there that may not work like it is supposed to !!!

Davide Lasagna (lasagnadavide) wrote :

This has been big regression.. +1

komputes (komputes) wrote :

There are two issues we present in this bug:
1) Ubuntu users need to be able to customize **alert sounds** (in any readable directory for that user).
2) A utility should be made available for users with little knowledge of the spec to create custom **sound themes**.

A few ideas on how to resolve this.

The first part of the issue (alert sounds) can be solved by allowing a user to:
a) place files in ~/.alerts (example) and having them show up in sound preferences
b) having the user be able to click "Add" in sound preferences and add a new alert

The second part (sound theme creation) is a mess and I'm not sure how to go about making it easier to use. We can't/shouldn't be able to customize all event sounds (Enable window and button sounds) within Sound Preferences. There are over 100 sound events available (see "Sound Naming Specification"). Allowing users to change them all inside Sound Preferences utility would be not be neat. However, importing a sound theme from any accessible location should be clean enough.

The issue still remains: How doe the average use create a sound theme? It could be solved by creating a utility to simplify the process of creating sound themes. I suggest a utility be created for this process. This utility would bring up a list of all 100+ possible events and then allow the user to assign sound files to each. It will then output a folder containing a index.theme file and a stereo folder with all the sounds (converted to .oga format if needed).

Spec: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/sound-theme-spec

description: updated
John Baptist (jepst79) wrote :

Hi. Is someone working on this bug? If not, is there someone here who is in a position to accept a patch?

Rocko (rockorequin) wrote :

@John Baptist: I guess you could try offering a patch upstream at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=596454

AquaQuieta (aqua-quieta) wrote :

Well, I ran into this on my Fedora install....and of course my Lucid install suffers from the same fault. Sound themes are great, but only if you can build them easily. I'm glad to see that others share my opinion. Komputes is right on the money...the only thing I would add to his first suggestion is that a ~/.sound_themes type directory would be nice as well, so a user could install a sound theme without root privs.

As for the second part, well, I needed an excuse to learn some GTK programming, and this annoyed me so much that I decided to write a little program to create XDG sound themes. So....

<SHAMELESS_PLUG>
I just released earXDG-0.0.2 It's a GTK+ program written in C++ for editing XDG sound themes. All FOSS-ified for your consuming pleasure (read GPL). It's not perfect, but I have used it to create several themes on both Ubuntu 10.04
and Fedora 12.

Unfortunately, there is no .DEB yet, so if you want it, you'll have to build it from source. If someone who is more knowledgeable about creating deb packages wants to give it it a go to help out the non-programmers, just let me know.
You can pick it up at:
http://www.infinitys-mind.com/earXDG
Be sure to read the README, BUGS, and TODO files to be aware of current issues, and if you find a bug not mentioned in the BUGS file, please drop me line.
</SHAMELESS_PLUG>

Anyway, I hope that helps somebody out...I'm off to edit my 'Trek' theme.....enjoy!

Changed in gnome-media:
importance: Unknown → Medium
status: Unknown → New
svaens (svaens) wrote :

big regression.
big annoyance

what are you doing Ubuntu!

Bryce Harrington (bryce) on 2011-02-09
Changed in gnome-media (Ubuntu):
importance: Medium → High
Changed in gnome-media:
status: New → Confirmed
Changed in gnome-media (Ubuntu):
assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) → nobody
Changed in gnome-media:
status: Confirmed → Invalid
Nerd_bloke (nerd-bloke) wrote :

Original bug marked as duplicate

Changed in gnome-media:
importance: Medium → Unknown
status: Invalid → Unknown
Changed in gnome-media:
importance: Unknown → Medium
status: Unknown → New
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