> This is not a criticism of our choice of default apps, or of their levels of integration.
No, I think it is really.
I strongly disagree with your premise that users hate being asked to log in to online services when first using a device. Android does that. It's optional. Most users are used to needing to sign in all the time to their services. Google asks me to sign in again multiple times per month. This is the first time I recall hearing someone complain about Online Account integration being offered in Initial Setup.
Thunderbird's lack of integration with GNOME Online Accounts (GOA) is an annoyance. I tried last year to get Thunderbird out of our default install but I wasn't able to get enough support for that. I believe geary now has GOA support in git master so that's one way forward eventually.
I don't have a Facebook account, but I believe Facebook would be useful if we switched from Shotwell to GNOME Photos. That's under discussion (maybe 19.04?) but we need the tracker MIR approved first at least.
We can pick which online accounts providers to show in gnome-initial-setup. I think it's reasonable to hide Facebook there for 18.10. The full list of providers will still show up in the Settings app (gnome-control-center).
> This is not a criticism of our choice of default apps, or of their levels of integration.
No, I think it is really.
I strongly disagree with your premise that users hate being asked to log in to online services when first using a device. Android does that. It's optional. Most users are used to needing to sign in all the time to their services. Google asks me to sign in again multiple times per month. This is the first time I recall hearing someone complain about Online Account integration being offered in Initial Setup.
Thunderbird's lack of integration with GNOME Online Accounts (GOA) is an annoyance. I tried last year to get Thunderbird out of our default install but I wasn't able to get enough support for that. I believe geary now has GOA support in git master so that's one way forward eventually.
I don't have a Facebook account, but I believe Facebook would be useful if we switched from Shotwell to GNOME Photos. That's under discussion (maybe 19.04?) but we need the tracker MIR approved first at least.
Probably the most useful integration users will get in the default install is with the file browser. So I filed https:/ /gitlab. gnome.org/ GNOME/nautilus/ issues/ 629
We can pick which online accounts providers to show in gnome-initial- setup. I think it's reasonable to hide Facebook there for 18.10. The full list of providers will still show up in the Settings app (gnome- control- center) .