Cannot view AVM2 flash enabled pages

[earthforce_1]

Binary package hint: browser-plugin-gnash

1) lsb_release -rd
Description: Ubuntu 10.10
Release: 10.10

2) apt-cache policy browser-plugin-gnash
browser-plugin-gnash:
  Installed: 0.8.8-5ubuntu1
  Candidate: 0.8.8-5ubuntu1
  Version table:
 *** 0.8.8-5ubuntu1 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

apt-cache policy firefox
firefox:
  Installed: 3.6.13+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.10.1
  Candidate: 3.6.13+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.10.1
  Version table:
 *** 3.6.13+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.10.1 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main i386 Packages
        500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     3.6.10+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main i386 Packages

3) What is expected to happen is when one opens Firefox and goes to http://edition.cnn.com/video/ it plays the video.

4) What happens instead is it does not. Notice if one secondary clicks the flash window -> click File -> Properties it states in Stage Properties Root VM Version AVM2 (unsupported)

This is a known enhancement request upstream -> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnash-dev/2010-10/msg00054.html

WORKAROUND: browser-plugin-lightspark.

WORKAROUND: flashplugin-installer.

[Zubin Bhuyan (zoobean)]

same here.

[Fers (ing-hernandez)]

I have the same problem, i'm hosting some pages locally and then the problem still there, even i install the last version of adobe flash. please do something.

[penalvch (penalvch)]

In Firefox went to http://edition.cnn.com/video/ -> secondary click the flash window -> click File -> Properties -> Notice how it states in Stage Properties Root VM Version AVM2 (unsupported)

This is a known enhancement request upstream -> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnash-dev/2010-10/msg00054.html

This bug's importance should be marked Wishlist.

lsb_release -rd
Description: Ubuntu 10.10
Release: 10.10

apt-cache policy browser-plugin-gnash
browser-plugin-gnash:
  Installed: 0.8.8-5ubuntu1
  Candidate: 0.8.8-5ubuntu1
  Version table:
 *** 0.8.8-5ubuntu1 0
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

[penalvch (penalvch)]

earthforce_1, since this bug has enough information provided for a developer to begin work, I'm going to mark it as Triaged and let them handle it from here. Thanks for taking the time to make Ubuntu better!

[Xavier Guillot (valeryan-24)]

If I understand well, GNU Gnash is now focused only on format Flash 8 and before (ActionScript 1.0 & 2.0, with environment AVM1) and won't support AVM2, as Lightspark implements format Flash 9 and later (ActionScript 3.0, with environment AVM2).

So for that you will need ro install also Lightspark : http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/lightspark

Normally, each one should include a fallback to the other when it reads a video needing the other environment.

[David Ayers (ayers)]

Thanks for the pointer but lightspark has not been packaged for any ubuntu (or debian) release. It is merely available via PPA (and in debian experimental) and the bug reports suggest that the fallback to gnash does not actually work.

Have you actually tried your suggestion? If so with which Ubuntu release and with which PPA's/versions of gnash and lighspark?

[Xavier Guillot (valeryan-24)]

That's right, I am the reporter of the bug for Lightspark with Youtube
and fallback to Gnash not working.

So for the moment, in my configuration, with Ubuntu 11.04 beta2 64,
Gnash 0.8.9 and Lightspark 0.4.6.1, it does not work for AVM2.

But what I wanted to tell is that, if I understand well (source is the
french Ubuntu documentation wiki : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/gnash),
Gnash has definitively abandoned AVM2 support, work will be done by
Lightspark, and normally both should have a fallback to other one in
case of unsupported format.

So if it is true, this specifically bug won't fix, and it is necessary
to ask it for Lightspark.

[rsavoye (rob-welcomehome)]

On 04/18/11 08:56, Xavier Guillot wrote:

> That's right, I am the reporter of the bug for Lightspark with Youtube
> and fallback to Gnash not working.

  Then it's a Lightspark bug, not a Gnash one most probably.

> Gnash has definitively abandoned AVM2 support, work will be done by
> Lightspark, and normally both should have a fallback to other one in

  This is untrue, we have not abandoned AVM2 support at all. As this is
a big task, we're on a holding pattern while trying to raise funding for
it. If you have questions about Gnash, it's better to ask us
(<email address hidden>) than Ubuntu about status of things.

 - rob -

[Xavier Guillot (valeryan-24)]

Yes, the bug for Lightspark not falling back to Gnash in Youtube, I well
reported it for Lightspark only, not for Gnash.

Thanks for the precision about Gnash and AVM2, I will correct the french
wiki documentation.

And that's also not the right place for that, bug big congratulations
for the fantastic work done on Gnash, apart AVM2 as said Gnash 0.8.9
works perfectly for all other Flash contents (site animations, Youtube
etc...), very good improvement !

[David Ayers (ayers)]

FWIW, I just tried http://ppa.launchpad.net/sparkers/ppa/ubuntu/ again and I haven't found a single video (I believe that www.golem.de uses AVM2 and as you already know the fall back doesn't work) that works on maverick. So unless I've got the wrong repository it seems that gnash gives a far superior user experience.

[mhotze (m-hotze)]

Because of the fallback issues, people might be looking for a solution here to play all Flash content in Ubuntu Firefox (I did):

1) Open Ubuntu Software Center (or Synaptic) , search for ¨Flash¨
2) Remove all Flash related software (Gnash SWF Viewer, Lightspark, Adobe Flash Plugin, etc)
3) Only install ¨Adobe Flash Plugin¨
4) Restart Firefox

[Pete (petewd)]

I would like to point out that here in the US the national weather service uses AVM2 format for the in motion RADAR images.
This is important to lots of us in the midwest during tornado season so we can watch the progress of a storm on the national wether service RADAR. Please find a good fix for this.

[strk (strk)]

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 02:45:16AM -0000, Pete wrote:
> I would like to point out that here in the US the national weather service uses AVM2 format for the in motion RADAR images.
> This is important to lots of us in the midwest during tornado season so we can watch the progress of a storm on the national wether service RADAR.
> Please find a good fix for this.

The _cheaper_ fix for everyone would be for the US national weather service
to stop using Flash, or at least use an AVM1 version. I strongly recommend
sending them an email. Failing that, you may want to try lightspark.

--strk;

[benditoelqueviene (quasar1970)]

A similar issue is happening with pages simpler than video in Flash. All pages (as long as I can say) in Issuu _can not_ be reproduced with Adobe Flash Player (even in Win7 in some cases, some work in Win8). I moved to Gnash and obtain the same result. Please check: http://issuu.com/faircountmedia/docs/mlk50. Calameo, another page for publishing documents in Flash, doesn't work with Gnash either: http://www.calameo.com/read/0010059394c6ef1c12019 (it does with Adobe Flash Player updated). So, many internet users are losing access to valuable documents due to a conflict with player plugins. Sites are moving too slowly to HTML5; Lightspark is considered as unstable by many. What can we do?

[rsavoye (rob-welcomehome)]

Gnash has no AVM2 support, and both of these sites are AVM2. What to do ? Find substantial funding for Gnash for the developers to implement AVM2 support, which is probably a multi-year effort.