Comment 46 for bug 192629

that just papers over the problem with a dirty, stupid piece of paper.

It says, "ok, because of some abstract security concern that say 5,000 people have, who don't at any point in time work on your system, we are consciously not going to allow you to delete these files from this drive at this time".

The core issue here is that the only reason that this is a problem is that the partition format is ntfs vs vfat or whatever. That's all there is to this. The solution is to mount the drive in a way that gives the user access to the drive that is consistent with all other drives. If the only problem is someone's abstract "security concern" realize that their opinion is just as likely to be a PROBLEM as a solution. Just as it is here.

At least, that's the SENSIBLE solution to a bug that should never have been a problem in the first place not to mention a year after I filed a bug report on it. At this point I'm tempted to just delete this entire bug report for the fact that too many people involved in this have their heads 6 feet up their asses! In the list of problems that I can think of with Ubuntu this is a minor issue yet the fact that it has yet to be resolved? I can see why there are such problems in the first place! Your opinion as to whether or not I should be "allowed" to delete a file on my own system is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT. Unless the user is clearly prohibited from doing so because of the mounting configuration, please get the hell out of the way and go away.

Now the question becomes how exactly do you, as OS programmers, handle mounting various formats, by default, to the Ubuntu desktop, knowing that, by default, out of legitimate security concerns, the user is likely not logging in as root but still very likely actually owns all the media associated with the system not to mention the files on said media?

That is the SOLE question here that is of any merit.

And the sheer fact is that if I'm sitting here on my Ubuntu laptop and I have an external drive formatted in NTFS that I formatted on another system and I have files on it that I created and put on that media that I want to delete? I want to delete them. Now. Period.

How you get from point A to point B is not my concern as long as you get from point A to point B, not take a huge long detail to point C which is where your head is somewhere deep in the recesses of your colon, and then never actually bother to get to point B because you feel that it isn't what's really important. What's really important to you is having your head lodged near point C in a warm and comfortable manner.

Is that clear?

Jesus Christ!!!

It's like you guys are doing everything that you can do to make it clear that if you really want to use a user-friendly yet competent PC OS, Ubuntu is not the way to go. If for no other reason than it is a window into the colons of the creators.