Comment 29 for bug 650498

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Ralf H. (ralf-seite7) wrote : Re: Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CAPTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E)

Why do you need something in that slot? Because people use that codepoint.

Ho does it has to look like? Thorsten already has some good links. I want to add:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=206693&id=47874590367
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=123593&id=47874590367

Bruno, please try to forget your (type) history. Some characters evolved, some are pure inventions, some are in between. They are abstract images and stand for themselves and their meaning, never for their history in the first place and therefore cannot be "right" or "wrong" by definition. Take the German Ü/Ä/Ö: They evolved from a lowercase (!) combination of u, e, a with the character e. An uppercase version was needed and so we naturally ended up with Ä/Ö/Ü. Everyone is happy with that, even though according to your definition they would be "wrong", because historically someone placed a lowercase Kurrent e on top of an uppercase letter. Creating an uppercase ß is exactly the same thing. It's neither right or wrong, it just fills a gap.

So, the design of the capital sharp s doesn't have to fulfill any historic requirements. It just needs to work! What works has been discussed for some time now and the direction most type designers go is pretty clearly visible from looking at the provided examples. So please don't try to invent some new and fancy SS ligature or something like that and go with what we have agreed on in the last couple of years. Because that's what letters and language are in the first place: agreements, that one abstract thing (a glyph or a word) stands for a certain meaning.