I've solved it I found that the bug didn't exit in a new account so I renamed .mozilla to .mozilla.old and simlar for the config dirs of the other browsers affected i.e. Galeon and epiphany then I tested them and they work fine, so the problem is in all that old cruft from way back, lost every thing but my bookmarks but thats not necessarily bad either
I've solved it I found that the bug didn't exit in a new account so I renamed .mozilla to .mozilla.old and simlar for the config dirs of the other browsers affected i.e. Galeon and epiphany then I tested them and they work fine, so the problem is in all that old cruft from way back, lost every thing but my bookmarks but thats not necessarily bad either