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Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 12:38:10 +0900
From: Osamu Aoki <email address hidden>
To: Frank =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=FCster?= <email address hidden>
Cc: Jens Seidel <email address hidden>,
<email address hidden>, <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#337259: debian-reference: FTBFS with new tetex-bin: Error trying to create
pdflatex.fmt
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 02:57:32PM +0100, Frank K=FCster wrote:
> Jens Seidel <email address hidden> wrote:
>=20
> >> Here, again, we are at a point were the debiandoc-sgml maintainers need
> >> to decide (perhaps you have, but I don't know yet):
> >>=20
> >> Do you want to produce PDF files only with pdflatex, or is there a
> >> reason to create them via latex/dvips/ps2pdf?
> >
> > PDF files are not created using latex/dvips/ps2pdf! (See again #321942.)
>=20
> So why not simply drop hyperref at all in this case?
>=20
> >> If yes, you should use CJKbookmarks also for DVI files, as indicated
> >> above. If not (and I recommend that), simply do not load hyperref at
> >> all when producing dvi (unless you want to distribute DVI files, too).=
=20
> >
> > Since our packages FTBFS all the time it may be a good idea to add an
> > option to debiandoc2latex to specify the further processing.=20
>=20
> Why do you think you need this? Isn't
>=20
> \ifpdf
> \usepackage[colorlinks=3Dtrue,CJKbookmarks]{hyperref}
> \fi
>=20
> enough? This will ignore hyperref completely for dvi generation, and
> thus for ps generation.
Hmmm... I am lost in LaTeX world.
Current debiandoc-sgml has functionality to modify generated latex file
using messy but simple shell script called fixlatex. The default symple
one is in debiandoc-sgml but the most elaborate one is in
debian-reference.
As I reviewed this cutomized bin/fixlatex in debian-reference, I was
surprized how it grew so much.
It looks like we can add this there.
As I have been updating debiandoc-sgml, I can fix some bugs from here
too. (I have to be careful not to break previous work arounds.)
That is to fix files in tools/lib/Format in the source tree of
debiandoc-sgml and there is LaTeX.pm is good candidates. For this
issue, I do not know which is better.
My question is:
Is this issue caused by other broken package? (it seems YES.)
If this broken package is fixed, having workaround implimented cause
problem? or some missing featues? How serious?
Should all debiandoc-sgml based package get this fix?
Thanks for your help.
Osamu
PS: If either of you think having CVS access to debiandoc-sgml
(http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debiandoc-sgml/) or debian-reference
(project: qref.sourceforge.net), let me know your account there.
PS2: As I see some locale based issues such as usepackage{babel}...
this LaTeX.pm was better place to fix but I did not dare to do so back
then. =20
Message-ID: <email address hidden> 1?Q?K=FCster? = <email address hidden>
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 12:38:10 +0900
From: Osamu Aoki <email address hidden>
To: Frank =?iso-8859-
Cc: Jens Seidel <email address hidden>,
<email address hidden>, <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#337259: debian-reference: FTBFS with new tetex-bin: Error trying to create
pdflatex.fmt
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 02:57:32PM +0100, Frank K=FCster wrote: colorlinks= 3Dtrue, CJKbookmarks] {hyperref}
> Jens Seidel <email address hidden> wrote:
>=20
> >> Here, again, we are at a point were the debiandoc-sgml maintainers need
> >> to decide (perhaps you have, but I don't know yet):
> >>=20
> >> Do you want to produce PDF files only with pdflatex, or is there a
> >> reason to create them via latex/dvips/ps2pdf?
> >
> > PDF files are not created using latex/dvips/ps2pdf! (See again #321942.)
>=20
> So why not simply drop hyperref at all in this case?
>=20
> >> If yes, you should use CJKbookmarks also for DVI files, as indicated
> >> above. If not (and I recommend that), simply do not load hyperref at
> >> all when producing dvi (unless you want to distribute DVI files, too).=
=20
> >
> > Since our packages FTBFS all the time it may be a good idea to add an
> > option to debiandoc2latex to specify the further processing.=20
>=20
> Why do you think you need this? Isn't
>=20
> \ifpdf
> \usepackage[
> \fi
>=20
> enough? This will ignore hyperref completely for dvi generation, and
> thus for ps generation.
Hmmm... I am lost in LaTeX world.
Current debiandoc-sgml has functionality to modify generated latex file
using messy but simple shell script called fixlatex. The default symple
one is in debiandoc-sgml but the most elaborate one is in
debian-reference.
As I reviewed this cutomized bin/fixlatex in debian-reference, I was
surprized how it grew so much.
It looks like we can add this there.
As I have been updating debiandoc-sgml, I can fix some bugs from here
too. (I have to be careful not to break previous work arounds.)
That is to fix files in tools/lib/Format in the source tree of
debiandoc-sgml and there is LaTeX.pm is good candidates. For this
issue, I do not know which is better.
My question is:
Is this issue caused by other broken package? (it seems YES.)
If this broken package is fixed, having workaround implimented cause
problem? or some missing featues? How serious?
Should all debiandoc-sgml based package get this fix?
Thanks for your help.
Osamu
PS: If either of you think having CVS access to debiandoc-sgml alioth. debian. org/projects/ debiandoc- sgml/) or debian-reference e.net), let me know your account there.
(http://
(project: qref.sourceforg
PS2: As I see some locale based issues such as usepackage{ babel}. ..
this LaTeX.pm was better place to fix but I did not dare to do so back
then. =20
Osamu