/usr/bin/dh_strip: dh_strip --dbg-package doesn't work on library names that have a common -dbg package for all binaries

[Debian Bug Importer]

Automatically imported from Debian bug report #261849 http://bugs.debian.org/261849

[Kilian Krause (seraph)]

severity 261849 serious
thanks

Hi,

there was no reply and this feature is an important part to clean up the
pwlib and openh323 package. Currently double building is used to produce
a debug build and i'd at least like to know what's the schedule to fix
this bug. If this not gonna be fixed soon, i might want to go import the
commands from dh_strip into pwlib rules, but i think the bug can be
easily enough fixed.

--
Best regards,
 Kilian

[Kilian Krause (seraph)]

severity 261849 grave
thanks

Quoting http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities

grave:
        makes the package in question unusable or mostly so, or causes
        data loss, or introduces a security hole allowing access to the
        accounts of users who use the package.

which sounds like my problem.
a) the manpage sounds like --dbg-package names the one package which
will hold all the debug from the rest of the pacakges, which is NOT THE
CASE.
b) this way libxyz-a.b.c cannot be stripped to libxyz-dbg...

--
Best regards,
 Kilian

[Joey Hess (joeyh)]

Kilian Krause wrote:
> severity 261849 serious
> thanks

This bug is not a release critical issue for debhelper, the
--dbg-package stuff has known problems (some of which may be yours,
though I found your report very hard to understand). There is no rule
that forces you to use debhelper for your package if it doesn't work.

> there was no reply and this feature is an important part to clean up the
> pwlib and openh323 package. Currently double building is used to produce
> a debug build and i'd at least like to know what's the schedule to fix
> this bug. If this not gonna be fixed soon, i might want to go import the
> commands from dh_strip into pwlib rules, but i think the bug can be
> easily enough fixed.

I'll fix it sometime after the sarge release, possibly sooner if I
receive a clear description of the problem or a patch.

--
see shy jo

[Joey Hess (joeyh)]

# Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.7.95.1
severity 261849 normal
tags 261849 moreinfo

[Kilian Krause (seraph)]

Hi Joey,

thanks for taking the time to respond. I know this is not actually RC.
It was meant as a means to get a feedback.

The problem can be easily described:

Using libxyz to produce libxyz-dbg is straightforward using the
--dbg-package parameter of dh_strip.

Yet, however few libs are named libxyz, as according to the Debian
Packaging Guide libs should be named according to their SONAME. Thus
most of the real world libs are libxyz-a.b.c (to have a real world
example take: libpt-1.6.6). That however makes the -dbg package forced
to be named libpt-1.6.6-dbg to be caught by the --dbg-package switch.
Unfortunatelly the libpt-1.6.6 is not the only package, but there's also
plugins to be caught. Thus the only way to use dh_strip with the
--dbg-package swtich would be to have 6 -dbg packs. One for each binary
deb. That I would consider a very bad design of packaging and therefore
would rather want to keep only 1 -dbg package (libpt-dbg) but have *all*
the debug symbols from all binary packages in there.

Currently this is only possible by running the -dbg-package switch over
each of them and merging them afterwards (which also is a broken
design), or using the -k and moving the /usr/lib/debug entries to the
libpt-dbg afterwards (this also is actually the task dh_strip should do
IMHO).

So what i'm asking for is the support according to what the manpage
reads to me: you have a package libxyz-* with one libxyz-dbg package
that will hold all the debug infos from all libxyz-[^dbg] binary
packages. That way it could be very easily accomplished to package a
library package installing all the binary debs and have them stripped in
one go with "dh_strip --dbg-package=libxyz" to catch them all.

Hth. Please ask if you need more info or more sample data.

--
Best regards,
 Kilian

[Debian Bug Importer (debzilla)]

Automatically imported from Debian bug report #261849 http://bugs.debian.org/261849

[Debian Bug Importer (debzilla)]

Message-Id: <email address hidden>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:17:28 +0200
From: Kilian Krause <email address hidden>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <email address hidden>
Subject: /usr/bin/dh_strip: dh_strip --dbg-package doesn't work on library names that
 have a common -dbg package for all binaries

Package: debhelper
Version: 4.2.17
Severity: normal
File: /usr/bin/dh_strip

Hi,
for libs like pwlib which have libpt-x.y.z and libpt-plugins-$SOMETHING,
but share a libpt-dbg the manpage is pretty misleading.

When adding to debian/rules the line:
 dh_strip --dbg-package=libpt
like the manpage would propose, the -dbg package remains empty whereas
the libpt-* are stripped. I've tried a bit around and aparently i can
make things working with:
 dh_strip --dbg-package=libpt-1.7.5
to produce a libpt-1.7.5-dbg package. Yet that would lead to several
-dbg packages for each binary package. Obviously this is NOT what i
intended doing.
So, what's the proposed way of doign this? Seriously manually sorting
some libpt-*-dbg together to a libpt-dbg after dh_strip is run?!
Or using the --keep-debug and then moving things myself to a libpt-dbg
after dh_strip?
Somewhat i think that the text like i had thought i read in the manpage
would make most sense. To use --dbg-package to identify the common -dbg
package and have all other debug symbols moved to there automagically.
Maybe exclude some from being moved (not from being processed), but i
have no prob providing all debug data that's generated for debugging.
Actually that sounds like a very good idea even. ;)

Objections? Did i do anything wrong? Any option i have not passed to
dh_strip which should have?

--
Best regards,
 Kilian

-- System Information:
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  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.7
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8

Versions of packages debhelper depends on:
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ii file 4.10-1 Determines file type using "magic"
ii fileutils 5.2.1-2 The GNU file management utilities
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[Debian Bug Importer (debzilla)]

Message-Id: <email address hidden>
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 00:17:45 +0200
From: Kilian Krause <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: no reply => long times in buildd to get pwlib/openh323 rolled out

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severity 261849 serious
thanks

Hi,

there was no reply and this feature is an important part to clean up the
pwlib and openh323 package. Currently double building is used to produce
a debug build and i'd at least like to know what's the schedule to fix
this bug. If this not gonna be fixed soon, i might want to go import the
commands from dh_strip into pwlib rules, but i think the bug can be
easily enough fixed.

--=20
Best regards,
 Kilian

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Message-Id: <email address hidden>
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 00:21:49 +0200
From: Kilian Krause <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: hmpf,wrong severity

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severity 261849 grave
thanks

Quoting http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities

grave:
        makes the package in question unusable or mostly so, or causes
        data loss, or introduces a security hole allowing access to the
        accounts of users who use the package.
       =20
which sounds like my problem.=20
a) the manpage sounds like --dbg-package names the one package which
will hold all the debug from the rest of the pacakges, which is NOT THE
CASE.=20
b) this way libxyz-a.b.c cannot be stripped to libxyz-dbg...

--=20
Best regards,
 Kilian

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[Matt Zimmerman (mdz)]

Self-aggrandizing feature request

[Joey Hess (joeyh)]

# Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.7.95.1
severity 261849 wishlist
tags 261849 - moreinfo
merge 261849 230588
retitle 261849 Make it a bit easier to use one debug package for multiple binary packages

[Joey Hess (joeyh)]

Kilian Krause wrote:
> thanks for taking the time to respond. I know this is not actually RC.
> It was meant as a means to get a feedback.

I don't take kindly to priority inflation as a way to get my attention,
FWIW. Next time, send me an email.

> plugins to be caught. Thus the only way to use dh_strip with the
> --dbg-package swtich would be to have 6 -dbg packs. One for each binary
> deb. That I would consider a very bad design of packaging and therefore
> would rather want to keep only 1 -dbg package (libpt-dbg) but have *all*
> the debug symbols from all binary packages in there.

This would seem to be the same as bug #230588. That bug has some
discussion and workarounds. My current plans for that are to keep the
current behavior as default, and to add some kind of
--dbg-destination=package flag that forces all the debug stuff into one
package. A patch would likely speed that up a lot, I'm rather busy with
debian-installer and sarge release work right now.

--
see shy jo

[Debian Bug Importer (debzilla)]

Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 20:34:14 -0300
From: Joey Hess <email address hidden>
To: Kilian Krause <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#261849: no reply => long times in buildd to get pwlib/openh323 rolled out

Kilian Krause wrote:
> severity 261849 serious
> thanks

This bug is not a release critical issue for debhelper, the
--dbg-package stuff has known problems (some of which may be yours,
though I found your report very hard to understand). There is no rule
that forces you to use debhelper for your package if it doesn't work.

> there was no reply and this feature is an important part to clean up the
> pwlib and openh323 package. Currently double building is used to produce
> a debug build and i'd at least like to know what's the schedule to fix
> this bug. If this not gonna be fixed soon, i might want to go import the
> commands from dh_strip into pwlib rules, but i think the bug can be
> easily enough fixed.

I'll fix it sometime after the sarge release, possibly sooner if I
receive a clear description of the problem or a patch.

--=20
see shy jo

[Debian Bug Importer (debzilla)]

Message-Id: <email address hidden>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 20:35:14 -0300
From: Joey Hess <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: severity of 261849 is normal, tagging 261849

# Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.7.95.1
severity 261849 normal
tags 261849 moreinfo

[Debian Bug Importer (debzilla)]

Message-Id: <email address hidden>
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 01:45:43 +0200
From: Kilian Krause <email address hidden>
To: Joey Hess <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#261849: no reply => long times in buildd to get
 pwlib/openh323 rolled out

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Hi Joey,

thanks for taking the time to respond. I know this is not actually RC.
It was meant as a means to get a feedback.=20

The problem can be easily described:

Using libxyz to produce libxyz-dbg is straightforward using the
--dbg-package parameter of dh_strip.=20

Yet, however few libs are named libxyz, as according to the Debian
Packaging Guide libs should be named according to their SONAME. Thus
most of the real world libs are libxyz-a.b.c (to have a real world
example take: libpt-1.6.6). That however makes the -dbg package forced
to be named libpt-1.6.6-dbg to be caught by the --dbg-package switch.
Unfortunatelly the libpt-1.6.6 is not the only package, but there's also
plugins to be caught. Thus the only way to use dh_strip with the
--dbg-package swtich would be to have 6 -dbg packs. One for each binary
deb. That I would consider a very bad design of packaging and therefore
would rather want to keep only 1 -dbg package (libpt-dbg) but have *all*
the debug symbols from all binary packages in there.=20

Currently this is only possible by running the -dbg-package switch over
each of them and merging them afterwards (which also is a broken
design), or using the -k and moving the /usr/lib/debug entries to the
libpt-dbg afterwards (this also is actually the task dh_strip should do
IMHO).=20

So what i'm asking for is the support according to what the manpage
reads to me: you have a package libxyz-* with one libxyz-dbg package
that will hold all the debug infos from all libxyz-[^dbg] binary
packages. That way it could be very easily accomplished to package a
library package installing all the binary debs and have them stripped in
one go with "dh_strip --dbg-package=3Dlibxyz" to catch them all.

Hth. Please ask if you need more info or more sample data.

--=20
Best regards,
 Kilian

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Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 20:17:47 -0400
From: Joey Hess <email address hidden>
To: Kilian Krause <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#261849: no reply => long times in buildd to get pwlib/openh323 rolled out

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Kilian Krause wrote:
> thanks for taking the time to respond. I know this is not actually RC.
> It was meant as a means to get a feedback.=20

I don't take kindly to priority inflation as a way to get my attention,
FWIW. Next time, send me an email.

> plugins to be caught. Thus the only way to use dh_strip with the
> --dbg-package swtich would be to have 6 -dbg packs. One for each binary
> deb. That I would consider a very bad design of packaging and therefore
> would rather want to keep only 1 -dbg package (libpt-dbg) but have *all*
> the debug symbols from all binary packages in there.=20

This would seem to be the same as bug #230588. That bug has some
discussion and workarounds. My current plans for that are to keep the
current behavior as default, and to add some kind of
--dbg-destination=3Dpackage flag that forces all the debug stuff into one
package. A patch would likely speed that up a lot, I'm rather busy with
debian-installer and sarge release work right now.

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see shy jo

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Message-Id: <email address hidden>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 21:14:54 -0300
From: Joey Hess <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: severity of 261849 is wishlist, tagging 261849, merging 261849 230588 ...

# Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.7.95.1
severity 261849 wishlist
tags 261849 - moreinfo
merge 261849 230588
retitle 261849 Make it a bit easier to use one debug package for multiple binary packages

[Kilian Krause (seraph)]

merge 230588 261849
severity 261849 normal
thanks

[Debian Bug Importer (debzilla)]

Message-Id: <1091875577.3081.14.camel@mars>
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 12:46:17 +0200
From: Kilian Krause <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: hadn't overlooked it in BTS when writing the bug..

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merge 230588 261849
severity 261849 normal
thanks

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[Kilian Krause (seraph)]

Hi Joey,

this is not a final and cleaned up patch, but it works as intended. All
that remains is patching the debhelper lib to hand-through a new
variable and make the according "if" equation consider it.

As i'm no real perl wiz (nor do i have any idea how the debhelper perl
lib works), i rather leave this to you. ;)

--- /usr/bin/dh_strip 2004-08-07 16:02:32.000000000 +0200
+++ /usr/bin/dh_strip.old 2004-08-07 15:41:13.000000000 +0200
@@ -180,9 +180,9 @@
        # Support for keeping the debugging symbols in a detached file.
        my $keep_debug=$dh{KEEP_DEBUG};
        my $debugtmp=$tmp;
- if (ref $dh{DEBUGPACKAGES}) {
+ if (ref $dh{DEBUGPACKAGES} && grep { $_ eq $package }
@{$dh{DEBUGPACKAGES}}) {
                $keep_debug=1;
- $debugtmp=tmpdir(@{$dh{DEBUGPACKAGES}})."-dbg";
+ $debugtmp=tmpdir($package."-dbg");
        }

        @shared_libs=@executables=@static_libs=();

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Best regards,
 Kilian

[Debian Bug Importer (debzilla)]

Message-Id: <1091887500.4713.4.camel@mars>
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 16:05:00 +0200
From: Kilian Krause <email address hidden>
To: Joey Hess <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#261849: no reply => long times in buildd to get
 pwlib/openh323 rolled out

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Hi Joey,

this is not a final and cleaned up patch, but it works as intended. All
that remains is patching the debhelper lib to hand-through a new
variable and make the according "if" equation consider it.

As i'm no real perl wiz (nor do i have any idea how the debhelper perl
lib works), i rather leave this to you. ;)

--- /usr/bin/dh_strip 2004-08-07 16:02:32.000000000 +0200
+++ /usr/bin/dh_strip.old 2004-08-07 15:41:13.000000000 +0200
@@ -180,9 +180,9 @@
        # Support for keeping the debugging symbols in a detached file.
        my $keep_debug=3D$dh{KEEP_DEBUG};
        my $debugtmp=3D$tmp;
- if (ref $dh{DEBUGPACKAGES}) {
+ if (ref $dh{DEBUGPACKAGES} && grep { $_ eq $package }
@{$dh{DEBUGPACKAGES}}) {
                $keep_debug=3D1;
- $debugtmp=3Dtmpdir(@{$dh{DEBUGPACKAGES}})."-dbg";
+ $debugtmp=3Dtmpdir($package."-dbg");
        }

        @shared_libs=3D@executables=3D@static_libs=3D();

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Best regards,
 Kilian

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[Thom May (thombot)]

Not something we care about for warty.

[Joey Hess (joeyh)]

Source: debhelper
Source-Version: 4.9.0

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debhelper, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

debhelper_4.9.0.dsc
  to pool/main/d/debhelper/debhelper_4.9.0.dsc
debhelper_4.9.0.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/debhelper/debhelper_4.9.0.tar.gz
debhelper_4.9.0_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/debhelper/debhelper_4.9.0_all.deb

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
have further comments please address them to <email address hidden>,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Joey Hess <email address hidden> (supplier of updated debhelper package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive
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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:01:20 -0400
Source: debhelper
Binary: debhelper
Architecture: source all
Version: 4.9.0
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Joey Hess <email address hidden>
Changed-By: Joey Hess <email address hidden>
Description:
 debhelper - helper programs for debian/rules
Closes: 206422 212162 228618 230588 305806 305816 312661
Changes:
 debhelper (4.9.0) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Begin work on compatability level 5. The set of changes in this mode is
     still being determined, and will be until debhelper version 5.0 is
     released, so use at your own risk.
   * dh_strip: In v5, make --dbg-package specify a single debugging package
     that gets the debugging symbols from the other packages acted on.
     Closes: #230588
   * In v5, ignore comments in config files. Only comments at the start of
     lines are ignored. Closes: #206422
   * In v5, also ignore empty lines in config files. Closes: #212162
   * In v5, empty files are skipped by dh_installdocs.
   * Use v5 to build debhelper.
   * Add deprecation warnings for debhelper v1 and v2.
   * Document getpackages in PROGRAMMING.
   * Add another test-case for dh_link.
   * dh_python: Minimal fix from Joss for -V to make it search the right
     site-packages directories. Closes: #312661
   * Make compat() cache the expensive bits, since we run it more and more,
     including twice per config file line now..
   * Add a "run" program to source tree to make local testing easier
     and simplfy the rules file.
   * Man page typo fixes. Closes: #305806, #305816
   * dh_installmenu: menus moved to /usr/share/menu. Closes: #228618
     Anyone with a binary executable menu file is SOL but there are none in
     debian currently.
   * Removed old versioned build deps for stuff that shipped in sarge or
     earlier, mostly to shut up linda and lintian's stupid messages.
Files:
 395df42df9a8b84197cbe7b526665b14 458 devel optional debhelper_4.9.0.dsc
 5d1656c95233f1ed7a72fc96b8dc8ece 149446 devel optional debhelper_4.9.0.tar.gz
 56f561ef08da029caba80fa131c5088b 362964 devel optional debhelper_4.9.0_all.deb

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