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Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 19:31:21 +0100
From: Andrew Saunders <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#248853: 3270: 5250 emulation code, all rights reserved
On Thu, 13 May 2004 10:35:27 -0400 (EDT)
Richard A Nelson <email address hidden> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 May 2004, Andrew Saunders wrote:
>
> > Package: 3270
> > Version: all
> > Severity: serious
> > Justification: Policy 2.3
> >
> > See the license terms here:
> >
> > http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/non-free/3/3270/3270_3.3.2p1-1/copyright
> --------------------------------------------^^^^^^^^^--------------
> -------------
>
> > The copyright holder of the 5250 emulation code appears to have
> > granted no permissions whatsoever; there is just the bare
> > copyright declaration on its own. Since copyright law works on the
> > basis that pretty much all rights are reserved (barring fair use
> > etc) unless expressly stated otherwise, the 5250 emulation code
> > and all code that could be considered to have been derived from it
> > are most definitely not legally distributable by Debian.
> >
> > Similarly, the portions of code copyrighted by Georgia Tech
> > Research Corporation are not distributable either, since the only
> > right explicitly granted is that to "public use" (whatever that
> > means).
> >
> > IMO, the 3270 packages should be removed from the archive
> > immediately.
>
> Sigh... did you not notice from which pool this came ?
Even Non-Free packages must as a minimum be legally distributable by
the Project to qualify for inclusion in the archive. I'm surprised you
could be a DD and yet not know this.
> I'm all for constructive criticism; something I can take to upstream
> - and he has done some work to improve the situation based upon
> earlier conversations. However, knee-jerk responces (like this) will
> be simply routed to /dev/null.
If you disagree with my analysis of the situation, how about providing
a coherent rebuttal as opposed to just dismissing my concerns out of
hand?
> If you wish to be helpful, I'll be happy to blast the copyright info
> to debian-legal for further critique. If you wish to just blather,
> consider this a *plonk*.
Appropriate X-Debbugs-CC header added. Let's see what the -legal
eagles think.
Message-Id: <email address hidden>
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 19:31:21 +0100
From: Andrew Saunders <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#248853: 3270: 5250 emulation code, all rights reserved
On Thu, 13 May 2004 10:35:27 -0400 (EDT)
Richard A Nelson <email address hidden> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 May 2004, Andrew Saunders wrote: packages. debian. org/changelogs/ pool/non- free/3/ 3270/3270_ 3.3.2p1- 1/copyright ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- --^^^^^ ^^^^--- ------- ----
>
> > Package: 3270
> > Version: all
> > Severity: serious
> > Justification: Policy 2.3
> >
> > See the license terms here:
> >
> > http://
> -------
> -------------
>
> > The copyright holder of the 5250 emulation code appears to have
> > granted no permissions whatsoever; there is just the bare
> > copyright declaration on its own. Since copyright law works on the
> > basis that pretty much all rights are reserved (barring fair use
> > etc) unless expressly stated otherwise, the 5250 emulation code
> > and all code that could be considered to have been derived from it
> > are most definitely not legally distributable by Debian.
> >
> > Similarly, the portions of code copyrighted by Georgia Tech
> > Research Corporation are not distributable either, since the only
> > right explicitly granted is that to "public use" (whatever that
> > means).
> >
> > IMO, the 3270 packages should be removed from the archive
> > immediately.
>
> Sigh... did you not notice from which pool this came ?
Even Non-Free packages must as a minimum be legally distributable by
the Project to qualify for inclusion in the archive. I'm surprised you
could be a DD and yet not know this.
> I'm all for constructive criticism; something I can take to upstream
> - and he has done some work to improve the situation based upon
> earlier conversations. However, knee-jerk responces (like this) will
> be simply routed to /dev/null.
If you disagree with my analysis of the situation, how about providing
a coherent rebuttal as opposed to just dismissing my concerns out of
hand?
> If you wish to be helpful, I'll be happy to blast the copyright info
> to debian-legal for further critique. If you wish to just blather,
> consider this a *plonk*.
Appropriate X-Debbugs-CC header added. Let's see what the -legal
eagles think.
--
Andrew Saunders