flash player not fully working on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit Firefox 3

[zeddock]

Flash player seems to be properly installed and working but when I go to CBS.com (as an example that is repeatable...) and try to watch an episode of "The Unit", the player area has a spinning loading animation that never ends.

How can I get more information on what is or is not happening?

I have tried a completely new OS install, and I notice that on another computer which is 8.10 32bit, there is not a problem.

Thanx!

zeddock

====
 lsb_release -rd
Description: Ubuntu 8.10
Release: 8.10
====
ls -al /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-11-23 14:35 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2008-10-29 17:15 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2008-11-23 14:29 flashplugin-alternative.so -> /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2008-11-23 14:35 libtotem-basic-plugin.so -> ../../totem/default/libtotem-basic-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 2008-11-23 14:35 libtotem-gmp-plugin.so -> ../../totem/default/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2008-11-23 14:35 libtotem-mully-plugin.so -> ../../totem/default/libtotem-mully-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 50 2008-11-23 14:35 libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so -> ../../totem/default/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 57 2008-11-23 14:29 npwrapper.libflashplayer.so -> /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree//npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
====
ls -al /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-11-23 14:29 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2008-11-23 14:29 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2008-11-23 14:29 flashplugin-alternative.so -> /etc/alternatives/firefox-flashplugin
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 57 2008-11-23 14:29 npwrapper.libflashplayer.so -> /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree//npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
====

[Gary Trakhman (gary-trakhman)]

Fixing this would be moot as adobe just released a native 64-bit plugin that doesn't require nspluginwrapper. Why not implement the new plugin instead?

you can test it yourself, remove all the flash packages and download the .so from here and stick it in your firefox plugins directory:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

[zeddock (zeddock)]

I have no idea how to do that. Please tell me?

Thanx,

zeddock

[Bernhard (b.a.koenig)]

Wow, 64bit flashplayer. I'd like to see it but rather wait for an apt download before I mess up my old flash player.

Btw, if you have problems with flash in firefox, I always recommend to try opera. It has much better flash support, go to opera.com and you can download it. They even have debs and a repo you can add to your sources.list.

[Gary Trakhman (gary-trakhman)]

um, dude... it's really not that hard. just apt-get remove
flashplugin-nonfree and put the .so file into your ~/.firefox/plugins

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Bernhard <email address hidden> wrote:
> Wow, 64bit flashplayer. I'd like to see it but rather wait for an apt
> download before I mess up my old flash player.
>
> Btw, if you have problems with flash in firefox, I always recommend to
> try opera. It has much better flash support, go to opera.com and you can
> download it. They even have debs and a repo you can add to your
> sources.list.
>
> --
> flash player not fully working on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit Firefox 3
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301791
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

[zeddock (zeddock)]

No Opera .deb for 64bit.

zeddock

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Bernhard <email address hidden> wrote:

> Wow, 64bit flashplayer. I'd like to see it but rather wait for an apt
> download before I mess up my old flash player.
>
> Btw, if you have problems with flash in firefox, I always recommend to
> try opera. It has much better flash support, go to opera.com and you can
> download it. They even have debs and a repo you can add to your
> sources.list.
>
> --
> flash player not fully working on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit Firefox 3
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301791
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

[Gary Trakhman (gary-trakhman)]

oh ok, first remove flash from your system with synaptic or "sudo
apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree"... then download the 64-bit
flash... and put the file in ~/.firefox/plugins, or whatever the
plugins directory is for you.

http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:47 PM, zeddock <email address hidden> wrote:
> I have no idea how to do that. Please tell me?
>
> Thanx,
>
> zeddock
>
> --
> flash player not fully working on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit Firefox 3
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301791
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

[Gary Trakhman (gary-trakhman)]

Trust me, 64-bit flash is easy and works fine... I get decent fullscreen videos with compiz enabled, even.

[zeddock (zeddock)]

I trusted you... now not working!
Please provide more information...

8.10 64bit installation of Ubuntu...
I also had *npwrapper.libflashplayer.so* listed in the directory of: *
/usr/lib/firefox/plugins
*After the sudo rm code you provided, I also went in and deleted that and
added the downloaded and extracted: *libflashplayer.so*

Is this correct?
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9525320 2008-11-24 21:01 libflashplayer.so

If so, it does not work. I wonder if it must be registered with firefox
somehow?

zeddock

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Gary Trakhman <email address hidden>wrote:

> Trust me, 64-bit flash is easy and works fine... I get decent fullscreen
> videos with compiz enabled, even.
>
> --
> flash player not fully working on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit Firefox 3
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301791
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

[zeddock (zeddock)]

I trusted you... now not working!
Please provide more information...

8.10 64bit installation of Ubuntu...
I also had "npwrapper.libflashplayer.so" listed in the directory of: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
After the "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree" code you provided, I also went in and deleted that and added the downloaded and extracted: "libflashplayer.so"

Is this correct?
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9525320 2008-11-24 21:01 libflashplayer.so

If so, it does not work. I wonder if it must be registered with firefox somehow? Or maybe what I removed was a link to something that now is still there?

zeddock

[zeddock (zeddock)]

Had to do a few other things but it does work now. Thanx Gary...
I had to remove all of the "npwrapper.libflashplayer.so" links and files. Then put the new file in those directories...

I also had to put it here:
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
/var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree

and I think maybe a few other places that I cannot remember.

Close and open firefox.

Go to http://www.cbs.com/primetime/the_unit/video/video.php?cid=446409735&pid=c21t0p4dAORaQpUENK_PKj9gASLBV9dw&play=true&cc=0

Watch the video!

zeddock

[Bernhard (b.a.koenig)]

Btw, there is 64bit opera. Look at

http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=linux-x86-64&ver=9.62&local=y

you can also add
deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ sid non-free
to your sources, see http://deb.opera.com/

[Gary Trakhman (gary-trakhman)]

oh, careful with sudo rm!! I didn't say that. I said sudo apt-get remove...

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:48 PM, zeddock <email address hidden> wrote:
> Had to do a few other things but it does work now. Thanx Gary...
> I had to remove all of the "npwrapper.libflashplayer.so" links and files. Then put the new file in those directories...
>
> I also had to put it here:
> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
> /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree
>
> and I think maybe a few other places that I cannot remember.
>
> Close and open firefox.
>
> Go to
> http://www.cbs.com/primetime/the_unit/video/video.php?cid=446409735&pid=c21t0p4dAORaQpUENK_PKj9gASLBV9dw&play=true&cc=0
>
> Watch the video!
>
> zeddock
>
> --
> flash player not fully working on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit Firefox 3
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301791
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

[zeddock (zeddock)]

So right!
You did not say it and I tried to fix my post to update it to show what you
did say to do.

Sorry.

zeddock

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Gary Trakhman <email address hidden>wrote:

> oh, careful with sudo rm!! I didn't say that. I said sudo apt-get
> remove...
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:48 PM, zeddock <email address hidden> wrote:
> > Had to do a few other things but it does work now. Thanx Gary...
> > I had to remove all of the "npwrapper.libflashplayer.so" links and
> files. Then put the new file in those directories...
> >
> > I also had to put it here:
> > /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
> > /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
> > /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree
> >
> > and I think maybe a few other places that I cannot remember.
> >
> > Close and open firefox.
> >
> > Go to
> >
> http://www.cbs.com/primetime/the_unit/video/video.php?cid=446409735&pid=c21t0p4dAORaQpUENK_PKj9gASLBV9dw&play=true&cc=0
> >
> > Watch the video!
> >
> > zeddock
> >
> > --
> > flash player not fully working on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit Firefox 3
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301791
> > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> > of the bug.
> >
>
> --
> flash player not fully working on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit Firefox 3
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301791
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

[Gary Trakhman (gary-trakhman)]

so, there's still nsplugin files left over after an "apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree"? That's kinda odd. I'm not sure I believe you, since apt should clean up its mess automatically. Maybe it's a new bug? But, I didn't try it that way myself, since I just had a fresh install of ibex a few days ago without flash installed.

[zeddock (zeddock)]

It could be what I had to delete were just links, right?
Look at the opening of this bug to see some "ls" responses I got previouse
to the apt-get remove.

BTW, I wouldn't believe me either. I am just too new to Linux. <smile>

Thanx,

zeddock

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Gary Trakhman <email address hidden>wrote:

> so, there's still nsplugin files left over after an "apt-get remove
> flashplugin-nonfree"? That's kinda odd. I'm not sure I believe you,
> since apt should clean up its mess automatically. Maybe it's a new bug?
> But, I didn't try it that way myself, since I just had a fresh install
> of ibex a few days ago without flash installed.
>
> --
> flash player not fully working on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit Firefox 3
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301791
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

[huiii (a00ps)]

thanks for advice, i followed it,
went to adobe's site and got newest flashplugin for 64bit,
removed all flash-pkgs and the nasty nspwrapper,
created a folder in /usr/lib called flashplugin-nonfree and extracted it there.
made simlinks to it under the plugi-folders of mozilla, firefox and iceweasel.
everything is working fine,
it is way better than before...
nevertheless, i still get 60% CPU...
is this normal?
under windows i would get for the same film 25% CPU...
what is this?

[Gary Trakhman (gary-trakhman)]

it could just be your cpu throttling down differently in linux than
windows. Check the cpufreq applet in the gnome bar or cat
/proc/cpuinfo. Basically 65% of 800MHz is better for power savings
than ~25% of 2.26GHz (in my case), so linux throttles down the cpu b/c
it can get away with it with the ondemand governor. Also, use of
compiz and video drivers and such may affect it.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, huiii <email address hidden> wrote:
> thanks for advice, i followed it,
> went to adobe's site and got newest flashplugin for 64bit,
> removed all flash-pkgs and the nasty nspwrapper,
> created a folder in /usr/lib called flashplugin-nonfree and extracted it there.
> made simlinks to it under the plugi-folders of mozilla, firefox and iceweasel.
> everything is working fine,
> it is way better than before...
> nevertheless, i still get 60% CPU...
> is this normal?
> under windows i would get for the same film 25% CPU...
> what is this?
>
> --
> flash player not fully working on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit Firefox 3
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301791
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

[Gary Trakhman (gary-trakhman)]

also, linux (top) reports 100% for one core being fully used in a dual
core system... while windows reports 50%, so that could explain it.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Grigory Trakhman
<email address hidden> wrote:
> it could just be your cpu throttling down differently in linux than
> windows. Check the cpufreq applet in the gnome bar or cat
> /proc/cpuinfo. Basically 65% of 800MHz is better for power savings
> than ~25% of 2.26GHz (in my case), so linux throttles down the cpu b/c
> it can get away with it with the ondemand governor. Also, use of
> compiz and video drivers and such may affect it.
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, huiii <email address hidden> wrote:
>> thanks for advice, i followed it,
>> went to adobe's site and got newest flashplugin for 64bit,
>> removed all flash-pkgs and the nasty nspwrapper,
>> created a folder in /usr/lib called flashplugin-nonfree and extracted it there.
>> made simlinks to it under the plugi-folders of mozilla, firefox and iceweasel.
>> everything is working fine,
>> it is way better than before...
>> nevertheless, i still get 60% CPU...
>> is this normal?
>> under windows i would get for the same film 25% CPU...
>> what is this?
>>
>> --
>> flash player not fully working on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit Firefox 3
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301791
>> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
>> of the bug.
>>
>

[huiii (a00ps)]

thank you very much for your swift response!

in the meantime I was checking the behavior of the CPU with the new 64bit flashplugin,
while with the former set of npwrapper and flashplugin the CPU would shoot up to 60-80% on 2GHZ,
it now seems to stay on 800MHZ, indeed, even-though it shows 60% CPU.

also, the ventilation does not kick in now, which means something good.
I did the checks unplugged from power and it was behaving much better than before:
Now i would be able to watch 100min of a flash-movie (and have still some battery left) where with the old plugin battery would exhaust completely after 80min... great!

thanks again to you...
bye

[huiii (a00ps)]

oh and of course, npviewer.bin is gone and with it lots of nasty "killall npviewer.bin" commands...

[Bernhard (b.a.koenig)]

I tried it myself and zeddock is right. You have to do something like this:

sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
sudo apt-get autoremove (removes nspluginwrapper and others)

then go to

usr/lib/firefox/plugins
usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

and in each case, remove the symbolic links in the plugin directories pointing to nspluginwrapper and put the downloaded libflashplayer.so instead. Then it works!

[huiii (a00ps)]

u could also make sym links to libflashplugin.so instead of putting it in each plugin-folder...

[Gary Trakhman (gary-trakhman)]

I just made it not system-wide and stuck the file in my
/home/gary/.mozilla/plugins folder... works fine for me

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 4:52 PM, huiii <email address hidden> wrote:
> u could also make sym links to libflashplugin.so instead of putting it
> in each plugin-folder...
>
> --
> flash player not fully working on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit Firefox 3
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301791
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

[Alberto Salvia Novella (es20490446e)]

This bug seems to affect only a release that is not longer supported. Feel free to reopen if I am mistaken.