Comment 1359 for bug 1

On 10/20/2010 02:21 PM, Setve Gentilly wrote:

> When I get a new system (which I get regularly) after it is assembled it
> take me 1 to 1.5 hours to install Windows, the drivers and the necessary
> software to get it to function at 100% efficiency. I don't have the time to
> fart around and mess with Operating systems and drivers that don't even run
> on a double click from the mouse, nor do I have the time to learn a new
> programing language (although I do know a few), no thank you.

I have expertise in both Windows and Linux. Windows takes longer.
Mainly it is the massive amount of reboots between updates and drivers.
  Also, the install is far to interactive, not set it and forget it. As
an aside, the only programming language I know is Perl, and I haven't
really used in in years.

> Let me give you an example, I installed Ubuntu 10.10RC on an AMD machine
> with an Asus board and an XFX HD 5770. When it came time to install the ATI
> drivers from ATI, I ran the package and it said nothing to me so I rebooted
> and guess what, it was not installed. So I then proceeded to install the
> third party drivers that Ubuntu suggested. Well, what a great performing
> card........ It gave 50GFLOPS instead of the 1400GFLOPS Windows gives me.
> I don't have time to fart around for days or weeks to get the machine
> working 100%.

You installed a beta, and it was not perfect? Really? And those Vista
betas were so smooth... And you had ATI driver problems? That is
surely an Ubuntu issue.
http://www.google.com/search?q=ati+driver+problems Or maybe not. And
why did you go the the ATI website first? Oh, yes... You picked up
that habit from Windows. In Ubuntu, you go to the repos first. And
yes, the ATI Linux drivers are worse than the Windows drivers for many
ATI cards. One reason I like nVidia. (On both platforms)

> When Ubuntu is as easy to install as Windows, then I will have another look
> at it.

You want Ubuntu to be as easy for a beginner to install with no
experience as Windows is for an expert with years of experience. That
is the bug... Unreasonable expectations. And the thought that
"Windows" is "Computer" and if you know "Windows" you know "computers."
  Not so helpfull with Mac, Linux, HP-UX, Aix, Solaris, AS400, VMS, or a
number of accounting specific systems. Now if you give the same test to
your grandmother, I bet Linux is easier.

And this is the reason I responded. People keep looking at the wrong
bug. The bug is that we did not tell you this BEFORE you started. Now
it is too late...