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Faldegast (faldegast) wrote on 2010-04-17: RE: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share

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The OSS community should create projects like that. It could be funded by providing certification of PHP developers etc...

> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:07:12 +0000
> From: <email address hidden>
> To: <email address hidden>
> Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share
>
> I totally agree with you... 3 years ago I was assigned with a project
> to create a Linux distribution to be used as a migration effort by the
> university I was studying to move to open source, promote open source
> and to teach open source languages like PHP, Python and Ruby to
> students. The plan as it is written on my contract is for the
> distribution to be deployed to over 200+ campuses across the country,
> also in the contract says they will be funding TV advertisement to
> promote open source to students so that the university will be a
> household name for a school that teaches open source.
>
> When Microsoft found out about the open source initiative this major
> school is planning, they soon set a meeting with the head officials
> and instantly the open source deal was off... The working product is
> already enjoying the deployment, but everything has changed.
>
> I don't know what happened in the meeting, but after just a week, new
> computers have been coming with Microsoft OS, Office, and Visual
> Studio pre-installed... All the old computers have been installed with
> Linux is reformatted to Xp. I was real close on getting a shot of
> changing the course of local tech eduction, but then Microsoft ruined
> everything... All the hardwork and countless hours I spend on the
> Linux project gone down the drain, thanks to Microsoft.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:11 PM, »John« <email address hidden> wrote:
> >> Building something out of spiteful resentment at seeing the success of
> > another is bad.
> >
> > I've heard this shit before and everyone who believes this is completely
> > missing the point. As a matter of fact, M$ was successful only because
> > they were lucky and what I hate about them is not their success, but the
> > way they keep themselves on top - I'm pretty sure everyone with as much
> > as a single trace of sense of fair play will come up with the exact same
> > conclusion if he does some digging and reads about all the bribery and
> > extortion this fscked up corporation never hesitates to use if it's in
> > their best interest. For example, let's take a closer look at their
> > licensing policy - if you wanna get your hands on a bunch of cheap OEM
> > kits, you gotta either bundle Winblow$ with the whole model line or
> > you're simply outta luck. Of course it's also hardware vendors' fault
> > that they agree to this in order to save some quick buck, but that
> > doesn't change the fact that it's M$ who does this on purpose to
> > artificially slow down the adoption of all competing software,
> > restricting end consumers' choice in the process (which is something
> > they don't give a fsck about). In the end the whole thing results in
> > "chicken and egg problem" with both hardware and software support for
> > every system other than Winblow$. Another clear example was the process
> > of "standardizing" OOXML - isn't it funny that a lot of committee
> > members who eventually reconsidered come from developing countries and
> > changed their minds after receiving generous donations from M$ or
> > something like that? Isn't it funny that M$ is always there to "help"
> > everyone who's seriously considering to move away from Winblow$ like
> > India or China? Am I the only one seeing a causal link here? Hardly. How
> > about bribing Russia not to go ahead with oficially daclaring them as a
> > monopoly? Does that ring any bells? The point is, that all this
> > completely brings down fundamental principles of competitive market, so
> > M$ can feel free to do whatever they want without suffering any
> > consequences. So go ahead and protect the corrupt tyrant from the wrath
> > they so richly deserve!
> >
> > --
> > Microsoft has a majority market share
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> > of the bug.
> >
>
> --
> Microsoft has a majority market share
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in Club Distro: Invalid
> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
> Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: Invalid
> Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
> Status in Ubuntu: Incomplete
> Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: In Progress
> Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: In Progress
> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Confirmed
> Status in “linux” package in Debian: Confirmed
> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
> Status in openSUSE: New
> Status in Tilix Linux: New
>
> Bug description:
> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
>
> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>
> Steps to repeat:
>
> 1. Visit a local PC store.
>
> What happens:
> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscribe

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The OSS community should create projects like that. It could be funded by providing certification of PHP developers etc...

> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:07:12 +0000
> From: joelbryan.juliano@gmail.com
> To: faldegast@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share
> 
> I totally agree with you... 3 years ago I was assigned with a project
> to create a Linux distribution to be used as a migration effort by the
> university I was studying to move to open source, promote open source
> and to teach open source languages like PHP, Python and Ruby to
> students. The plan as it is written on my contract is for the
> distribution to be deployed to over 200+ campuses across the country,
> also in the contract says they will be funding TV advertisement to
> promote open source to students so that the university will be a
> household name for a school that teaches open source.
> 
> When Microsoft found out about the open source initiative this major
> school is planning, they soon set a meeting with the head officials
> and instantly the open source deal was off... The working product is
> already enjoying the deployment, but everything has changed.
> 
> I don't know what happened in the meeting, but after just a week, new
> computers have been coming with Microsoft OS, Office, and Visual
> Studio pre-installed... All the old computers have been installed with
> Linux is reformatted to Xp. I was real close on getting a shot of
> changing the course of local tech eduction, but then Microsoft ruined
> everything... All the hardwork and countless hours I spend on the
> Linux project gone down the drain, thanks to Microsoft.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:11 PM, »John« <JnS.002@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Building something out of spiteful resentment at seeing the success of
> > another is bad.
> >
> > I've heard this shit before and everyone who believes this is completely
> > missing the point. As a matter of fact, M$ was successful only because
> > they were lucky and what I hate about them is not their success, but the
> > way they keep themselves on top - I'm pretty sure everyone with as much
> > as a single trace of sense of fair play will come up with the exact same
> > conclusion if he does some digging and reads about all the bribery and
> > extortion this fscked up corporation never hesitates to use if it's in
> > their best interest. For example, let's take a closer look at their
> > licensing policy - if you wanna get your hands on a bunch of cheap OEM
> > kits, you gotta either bundle Winblow$ with the whole model line or
> > you're simply outta luck. Of course it's also hardware vendors' fault
> > that they agree to this in order to save some quick buck, but that
> > doesn't change the fact that it's M$ who does this on purpose to
> > artificially slow down the adoption of all competing software,
> > restricting end consumers' choice in the process (which is something
> > they don't give a fsck about). In the end the whole thing results in
> > "chicken and egg problem" with both hardware and software support for
> > every system other than Winblow$. Another clear example was the process
> > of "standardizing" OOXML - isn't it funny that a lot of committee
> > members who eventually reconsidered come from developing countries and
> > changed their minds after receiving generous donations from M$ or
> > something like that? Isn't it funny that M$ is always there to "help"
> > everyone who's seriously considering to move away from Winblow$ like
> > India or China? Am I the only one seeing a causal link here? Hardly. How
> > about bribing Russia not to go ahead with oficially daclaring them as a
> > monopoly? Does that ring any bells? The point is, that all this
> > completely brings down fundamental principles of competitive market, so
> > M$ can feel free to do whatever they want without suffering any
> > consequences. So go ahead and protect the corrupt tyrant from the wrath
> > they so richly deserve!
> >
> > --
> > Microsoft has a majority market share
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> > of the bug.
> >
> 
> -- 
> Microsoft has a majority market share
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
> 
> Status in Club Distro: Invalid
> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
> Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: Invalid
> Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
> Status in Ubuntu: Incomplete
> Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: In Progress
> Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: In Progress
> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Confirmed
> Status in “linux” package in Debian: Confirmed
> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
> Status in openSUSE: New
> Status in Tilix Linux: New
> 
> Bug description:
> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
> 
> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
> 
> Steps to repeat:
> 
> 1. Visit a local PC store.
> 
> What happens:
> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
> 
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
> 
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscribe
 		 	   		  
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