Comment 2 for bug 1548672

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Dan Chapman  (dpniel) wrote :

Log from yesterdays discussion at weekly meeting.

 12:50 <JMulholland> re: 1548672 - Yes, we should have some sort of empty state for this. My personal preference would be to show the most recent message, with “No message selected” (or similar) for when nothing available to pre-select

 12:50 <JMulholland> what do you think?

 12:51 <davmor2> JMulholland: popey is at embedded world

 12:51 <JMulholland> thanks davmor2, got my wires crossed and thought he was having fun with the others at MWC :)

 12:53 <dpm> I'm sure he's having fun, yesterday he sent a picture with ogra in a suit!

 12:53 <JMulholland> haha! :D

 12:53 <dpm> that what snappy makes to you :)

 12:53 <DanChapman> JMulholland, yep sounds good. Just to be sure... So if a folder has been previously opened in either a previous or current session then select the last viewed message other wise just a simple message with "No message selected"?

 12:55 <JMulholland> Id say so, it’s that or show the most recently received message by default - they both have pro’s and cons.

 12:58 <JMulholland> What would you guys prefer in your day-to-day emailing? A) Show the most recently receieved message when you open the app. B) persist the state between sessions and show the last thing you looked at.

 12:58 <DanChapman> Yeah i'd avoid automatically selecting a recently received unread message. That will change state on the server without user interaction, which is usually frowned upon. OTOH I would think it's fine to do that if it's triggered from a push notification message being activated & launching Dekko.

 12:58 <JMulholland> very good point

 12:59 <JMulholland> so lets go with persisting between sessions, sound good to you too faenil?

 12:59 * faenil tunes back in, after being pulled into another conv

 13:00 <JMulholland> …which is why I do these meetings in a meeting room :P

 13:00 <faenil> JMulholland: that doesn't help :)

 13:00 <faenil> (chat conv)

 13:00 <JMulholland> heheh.

 13:00 <DanChapman> :-D

 13:01 <faenil> sounds good to me

 13:01 <faenil> (if we really have to show something)

 13:02 <faenil> personally I wouldn't open any email at startup, you could be with another person who should not be reading that email

 13:02 <JMulholland> that’s a valid poiny

 13:03 <JMulholland> *point

 13:03 <JMulholland> Perhaps not such an issue for a small device, but on a large monitor....

 13:04 <faenil> yeah

 13:04 <faenil> especially on a large monitor

 13:04 <faenil> but even because you might not want to wait for an email to load, before having to go back and open another one

 13:04 <faenil> mmm don't know

 13:04 <DanChapman> just tried geary, thunderbird & nylas and they all show the last selected message.

 13:05 <JMulholland> As does “outbox” and “mail”

 13:05 <faenil> time's up for me :) cya next time people o/

 13:05 <faenil> DanChapman: as usual, ping me as needed :)

 13:05 <DanChapman> Cya faenil. Will do :-)

 13:05 <JMulholland> and yea, the wait for the load combined with pickup/put down sessions (due to distractions or (hopefully not) crashes)… Picking up where you left off would be nice.

 13:06 <JMulholland> thanks faenil, see you!

 13:06 <faenil> DanChapman: interesting...gmail doesn't open any email

 13:06 <DanChapman> gmail android?

 13:07 <DanChapman> Ahh IIRC it has the little mailbox icon centered in the view?

 13:07 <faenil> web gmail

 13:07 * faenil fades

 13:07 <faenil> o/

 13:07 <JMulholland> see yah

 13:07 <JMulholland> web gmail goes staright to an inbox view, so Im not sure it’s applies here

 13:08 <DanChapman> this is starting to sound like a possible preference setting. "Show last message on start"

 13:09 <JMulholland> I think that may be the best approach based even just on this discussion: Go with the common convention for now (persist) as a default setting, and if anything causes us pause down the road we can revisit and switch the default over to showing an empty ‘select a message’ state. Sound good Dan?

 13:09 <JMulholland> (And lets get popeys input on this too, once he’s back from buis. travel)

 13:09 <DanChapman> Sounds good to me. I'll add it to the bug report.