Comment 7 for bug 689893

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C de-Avillez (hggdh2) wrote :

I think we are missing some definitions at the start -- what we _mean_ by:
* the Ubuntu Project
* the Ubuntu Community
* who is a member of said community
* Ubuntu (Community) governance bodies
* Ubuntu Community Council
* work performed for the Ubuntu Project (be it devel, i18n, QA, documentation, etc)
* who are 'We' (note, upper-cased); perhaps we should also make clear what we mean by 'You', and not let it default by exclusion -- if not a member of 'We', then it is 'You'.

etc. In summary, we are missing the _context_ needed for the CoC to be understood by those NOT members of the UC (the casual/ad hoc user/developer/etc). It is not really the CoC that needs to be changed, but clear definitions that need to be added.

Frankly, I would rather have all, irrespective of affiliation, abide by the CoC; in fact, I would go further, and make it clear we require it -- for example, the auto-email in response for non-member submission to our moderated lists could also say something like "by emailing any of Our mailing lists You implicitly accept following the CoC[link]", or similar.

It is a pity that we have to get to something that is very near legalese (but legalese exists so that things like this get to be clear).

I am against the change 'works/words' -- all we need is to define 'work' (as above), and it gets general enough to _also_ cover 'words'; OTOH, 'words' is much more limiting, and misses anything else.