Ubuntu Code of Conduct

Bug #689893
Comment #5

Comment 5 for bug 689893

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Cybe R. Wizard (cybe) wrote on 2010-12-22:

Thanks for your work on behalf of this bug, Daniel.

That wdiff is awfully difficult to read and make sense of for me.

I recognize the differences between the two kinds of English spellings
and so didn't try to correct anything but may have introduced my own
US spellings here and there. I haven't checked for that, to be
truthful. If so and I have added confusion, I am sorry.

You said:
"- It's unclear to me why you remove "Ubuntu governance bodies are
ultimately accountable to the [Ubuntu Community Council]"."

It is plainly a mistake on my part and one which I cannot account for.
I plead sleeplessness and haste on the night I made revisions.

As far as removing the last paragraph, I didn't. I did move some
things around and delete some examples that seemed to not speak to
me as simply a user. I think maybe you've missed reading the whole
thing which doesn't all show up in my browser by default. I had to
click the, "Read more...," link at the bottom of the firefox display.

OTOH, that can't be so as you have gleaned my RL name from the very
bottom. Maybe a mistake and you just missed seeing it?
It's there, I swear!

May I suggest the combination, '...work/words...," to accommodate all areas of
contribution?

The 'only developers being collaborative' part may be a case of
semantic interpretation. I see developers not so much as only code
writers but as anyone who is involved in developing Ubuntu, the
OS /and/ the community.
You and I, as we consider these changes, are developing something
Ubuntu even if it never goes anywhere.

In the question of the use of, "we," or the use of, "you," I see the use
of, "we," as differentiating 'we' from 'they' as separate entities. It
strikes me as similar to, "us vs. them." I see the use of, "you," as
connoting more the feeling of, "you and I," a unity. Once again,
maybe it is just semantics and I am viewing it all from a US-centric
POV, but it (the current CoC) feels divisive to me as a plain user.
That, at least to my reading, is the very heart of the ambiguity and
of my feeling that users aren't really spoken to in the COC.

I hope this helps to clarify my view and makes some kind of sense.
I'd hate to think I'm just getting old.

Thanks for your work on behalf of this bug, Daniel.

That wdiff is awfully difficult to read and make sense of for me.

I recognize the differences between the two kinds of English spellings
and so didn't try to correct anything but may have introduced my own
US spellings here and there.  I haven't checked for that, to be
truthful.  If so and I have added confusion, I am sorry.

You said:
"- It's unclear to me why you remove "Ubuntu governance bodies are
ultimately accountable to the [Ubuntu Community Council]"."

It is plainly a mistake on my part and one which I cannot account for.
I plead sleeplessness and haste on the night I made revisions.

As far as removing the last paragraph, I didn't.  I did move some
things around and delete some examples that seemed to not speak to
me as simply a user.  I think maybe you've missed reading the whole
thing which doesn't all show up in my browser by default.  I had to
click the, "Read more...," link at the bottom of the firefox display.

OTOH, that can't be so as you have gleaned my RL name from the very 
bottom.  Maybe a mistake and you just missed seeing it?
It's there, I swear!

May I suggest the combination, '...work/words...," to accommodate all areas of
contribution?

The 'only developers being collaborative' part may be a case of
semantic interpretation.  I see developers not so much as only code
writers but as anyone who is involved in developing Ubuntu, the
OS /and/ the community.  
You and I, as we consider these changes, are developing something
Ubuntu even if it never goes anywhere.

In the question of the use of, "we," or the use of, "you," I see the use
of, "we," as differentiating 'we' from 'they' as separate entities.  It
strikes me as similar to, "us vs. them."  I see the use of, "you," as
connoting more the feeling of, "you and I," a unity.  Once again,
maybe it is just semantics and I am  viewing it all from a US-centric
POV, but it (the current CoC) feels divisive to me as a plain user.
That, at least to my reading, is the very heart of the ambiguity and 
of my feeling that users aren't really spoken to in the COC.

I hope this helps to clarify my view and makes some kind of sense.  
I'd hate to think I'm just getting old.