Comment 1215 for bug 1

OK, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I can buy the business notebooks too (I'm
checking on their site but I can't find the information). But this is
something silly, if this is my only option.

Maybe there's a way I can order another Dell, but the point doesn't change:
if you enter a shop, you find tons of models, but can't be confident on no
one of those, for a good ubuntu install.

notebooks are sold with tags like ACER 1234 F13-xz2: my ACER 1234 can be
different from another ACER 1234. Setting up sites like linlap or
http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/, if you can't be 100% sure that you're speaking of
the very same notebook, are not useful.

About your last guess, I don't agree. A person with a ubuntu cd on his hand
can try to put it on his notebook. But if he face problems, he's not
supposed to know the way to fix them.. and this happens for the majority of
the notebook out there.

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Martin Wildam <email address hidden> wrote:

> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 14:43, Alex <email address hidden> wrote:
> > If you browse the Dell site, or at least the italian site, you find
> notebook
> > without an OS only on the "business section". For private users, all
> their
> > systems have Windows (I can miss something, but I browsed almost all
> their
> > models".
>
> 1. As a private person you can also buy the business models - this is
> just a logical separation.
> 2. I can have all those models also without OS if you wish - at that
> time when I bought the Latitude E-5500, on the website it was offered
> with Windows only. I just told them that I want it without OS. Also
> wanted another display (I hate those glossy ones). They are flexible
> if you talk to them - one reason why I do recommend Dell (second
> reason is the excellent service - at least here in Austria).
>
>
> > Linux is not so common on the shops here, but there is a wide community
> the
> > same. I think that more or less 1% of our computers has linux installed.
> > In stores, 0% of the notebooks has it.
>
> I guess, everybody who wants to use Linux is able to put in the
> distribution of flavor and dump the preinstalled Windows. I already
> stated earlier that I think, there will be more than 50 % Linux around
> earlier than offered in the shops. So bug #1 should maybe have another
> description.
>
> --
> Martin Wildam
>
> --
> Microsoft has a majority market share
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> Bug description:
> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
>
> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
> restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and
> limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential,
> globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>
> Steps to repeat:
>
> 1. Visit a local PC store.
>
> What happens:
> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software
> pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
> Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
> benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
>
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