Comment 2 for bug 462247

I asked a friend that know about the subject:

Egil Möller

 to Rubén
show details Oct 29 (2 days ago)
fromEgil Möller
toRubén Romero y Cordero
dateThu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:26 PM
subjectRe: Fwd: [Bug 462247] [NEW] Spread Ubuntu material licensing
hide details Oct 29 (2 days ago)
Hi Rubén!

First off, you have two separate issues here - copyright and trademark
rights. And you might need a license to both depending on your usage. For
commercial usage of the logos spreading Ubuntu you definitely need a
trademark license. CC licenses (and GFDL for that matter) only handles
copyright, which is fine for all of your material, except for the logos and
the names (Ubuntu, Canonical etc).

You could very well CC license, or put in the public domain, parts of your
work, e.g. the full material but without any logos and names. If that makes
any sense at all obviously depends on the material.

You should also consider what you want to achieve - do you want people using
modified works to spread Ubuntu in ways you hadn't expected? Then you need
to give them the full material under a CC license and a reasonable license
for the trademarks. Do you want to stop people using the materials in
modified form to advocate e.g. Debian? Etc. etc.

What is your relationship with Canonical? Can you ask them for licenses if
you currently do not have the rights you need?

Hope this helps, and don't hesitate to ask again when you have answers to
the questions above...

Best regards,
Egil

Rubén Romero y Cordero wrote:

Hei Egil,

You know about this stuff.

can you please maybe give us some insight?

R.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Evan Boldt
Date: Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Bug 462247] [NEW] Spread Ubuntu material licensing
To: huayra

I think that we are unable to make it public domain because the ubuntu
logos are not public domain.

I think we could add more license options like gnu fdl and ccby.

Although canonical has a pretty well spelled out policy on logo usage,
I think they may have to also allow use under an open source license,
since it is included in the open source os.

I'm not very good with this licensing stuff though, so double check
all that.

On Oct 27, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Ruben Romero <email address hidden> wrote:

> Public bug reported:
>
> SpreadUbuntu uses a CC-BY-SA for all material policy, but allows users
> to choose a double license if they want to.
>
> This need to be discussed a lot more.
>
> Is Public Domain instead of CC-BY-SA for all material a viable
> solution
> combined (or not) with a double license policy?
>
> We need to solve this question once and for all! And remember that
> this
> applies to all Ubuntu marketing material that will be uploaded/shared
> through the Spread Ubuntu site.
>
> ** Affects: spreadubuntu
> Importance: Undecided
> Status: New
>
> --
> Spread Ubuntu material licensing
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/462247
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of
> SpreadUbuntu Admins, which is subscribed to SpreadUbuntu.

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Evan Boldt <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> I think that we are unable to make it public domain because the ubuntu
> logos are not public domain.
>
> I think we could add more license options like gnu fdl and ccby.
>
> Although canonical has a pretty well spelled out policy on logo usage,
> I think they may have to also allow use under an open source license,
> since it is included in the open source os.
>
> I'm not very good with this licensing stuff though, so double check
> all that.
>
> On Oct 27, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Ruben Romero <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> > Public bug reported:
> >
> > SpreadUbuntu uses a CC-BY-SA for all material policy, but allows users
> > to choose a double license if they want to.
> >
> > This need to be discussed a lot more.
> >
> > Is Public Domain instead of CC-BY-SA for all material a viable
> > solution
> > combined (or not) with a double license policy?
> >
> > We need to solve this question once and for all! And remember that
> > this
> > applies to all Ubuntu marketing material that will be uploaded/shared
> > through the Spread Ubuntu site.
> >
> > ** Affects: spreadubuntu
> > Importance: Undecided
> > Status: New
> >
> > --
> > Spread Ubuntu material licensing
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/462247
> > You received this bug notification because you are a member of
> > SpreadUbuntu Admins, which is subscribed to SpreadUbuntu.
>
> --
> Spread Ubuntu material licensing
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/462247
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of
> SpreadUbuntu Admins, which is subscribed to SpreadUbuntu.