Comment 24 for bug 842076

Hi Matthijs ten Kate

I am glad to see a response on this issue.

My intention is that "Simple Scan" implies to simply scan a document.
Nobody expects that "Simple Scan" is an document based application like
libre office, audacity or sublime text. Instead you expect that it scans a
document, shows it to you and than you can press save and it will be saved
to disk.

For this I replaced the 'save' functionality by the 'save as'
functionality, because a document saved as file could be replaced by a new
scanned image and 'saved' as the same file, which the user does not expect
as explained. Save as is a better choice. This opens a dialog, asking you
for a file name with a pretty good preset and in most cases you simply
press enter to acknowledge it to save a new file.

In my mind it actually fix both bugs.

Robert

2017-03-29 13:24 GMT+02:00 Matthijs ten Kate <email address hidden>:

> Thanks Robert for looking into this.
> However, I'm not sure how removing the 'Save As' functionality fixes the
> issue. Can you elaborate on this?
> Furthermore, bug 1672019 is just a small part of the issue described here.
>
> Interestingly, the "save-behaviour" of Simple Scan seems to vary between
> output formats:
>
> PDF - behaves as in this bug report
> PNG & JPG - behaves as reported in bug 1672019
>
> I never noticed this before since I rarely save to PNG or JPG.
>
> It would be great to have both bugs fixed after having been present for
> over 6 years...
>
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>
> Title:
> Save button doesn't warn before overwriting existing file
>
> Status in Simple Scan:
> Fix Committed
>
> Bug description:
> Usability bug: In a typical serial scanning workflow, one tends to scan
> a document, click on the 'Save' icon, navigate to the location where the
> document should be stored, enter the name of the document and finally click
> on the 'Save' button. So far so good.
> After that, one typically moves on to the next document, which typically
> needs to be saved to a different file.
> Currently however, when scanning a second document, it is displayed next
> to the first. Other than that, there is no indication whatsoever that
> Simple Scan will overwrite the previously saved document as soon as the
> user clicks the 'Save' icon.
>
> So the user will typically remove the first page(s) which he/se
> presumes are safely stored in a file and hit 'Save' again...
>
> Moreover, if the user isn't paying close attention, he/she could run
> into the situation that numerous scans have been made and presumably
> saved, only for the user to find out that only the *last* scan was
> actually saved and all previous scans were overwritten.
>
> I've run into this 'bug' numerous times and so have other people in my
> environment who have been using the application in this manner.
> IMHO there are numerous ways to 'fix' this:
> 1. Always warn before overwriting an existing document. In an
> application as simple as Simple Scan, I cannot imagine why anyone would
> want to have the 'Save' icon/button working the way it does now when
> scanning multiple documents.
> 2. Clearly show which saved document the user is currently working on
> (e.g. display the file name in the menu bar).
> 3. Find a way to make absolutely clear to the user (at the first use of
> the application?), that the workflow for serialized scanning of documents
> is using a 'CTRL+N' (for new document) after EACH scan.
>
> A combination of the above would of course also be a solution.
>
> ProblemType: Bug
> DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10
> Package: simple-scan 3.1.5-0ubuntu1
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