** OPENDNS WITHOUT USERS KNOWING IS WRONG - PLEASE CHANGE !!

[LaunchPadGirl]

Hello Mint Team,

There are certainly different distros for different reasons and purposes, Mint is certainly one that is set out the box ready to be used to make it easy for the end-user, but this situation still does not make that excusable.

There are some lines I believe in the Linux world you don't cross, because certain things people have very strong beliefs towards, so some things should be left up to the end-user, no matter what distro.

OpenDNS & DNS is one of those beliefs for various reasons, there is a very big Love & Hate relationship when it comes to OpenDNS, and I truly believe the way in which Mint is going about this is not being handled properly.

I truly think this was done in very bad taste to put in these OpenDNS fallbacks.

DNS is something very particular to a lot of people, and there are certainly choices out there for the end-user to CHOOSE from. This is something that should be left up to the end-user to make their OWN CHOICES, and not something you should be doing.

When it comes to networking no one should be doing something like this, putting in your own personal preferences into Mint. Let people decide if they need the fallback as an OPTION during the install of Mint, along with other choices too like, Google, Comodo, amongst many other DNS providers out there.

What happened to CHOICE here, and WHY did you DECIDE to take that away?

Now here's a good opportunity to change this situation. Mint should have an option during the installation, FIRST explaining to the new users what this is all about, and then IF they WANT this, then they can pick from various DNS providers, even mixing from different sources too.

A lot of people I'm sure will just say, what's the big deal this is ONLY a FALLBACK? Actually the DNS are being queried and used, I don't seeing this working as inteneded, there is a bug here, and this is not something I want, regardless if it worked properly or not, AGAIN, CHOICES!

So let the end-user CHOOSE which fallback they'd like IF they want it!

Google, Norton, Commodo, OpenDNS, 4 companies offering DNS services, but do you personally LIKE or TRUST all of these companies? This is the ANOTHER ASPECT here, what people like and place trust in, and many people the world over do not like or trust OpenDNS!

REMEMBER Linux is about CHOICE and when you did this you took away what I believe a VERY IMPORTANT choice that not only DEALS with Domain Name Resolution, but ---> SECURITY!

THANKS for reading and CONSIDERING! :)

[Russell (russkev)]

I am the, not so knowledgeable end-user, that LaunchPadGirl speaks of. A quick search of OpenDNS 4, turned up a post where an 8 yr old girl did a search for, My Little Pony, and it turned up a porn site. The site was a blocked site, thank God. However, do I trust OpenDNS, 4, no, not at all. I would have to do more research. Do I trust Linux or Mint? That remains to be seen. Thanks to LaunchPadGirl for pointing this out.
Russell

[Clement Lefebvre (clementlefebvre)]

omg... seriously... I won't comment on the drama and all the CAPS, it's insulting, ridiculous. It makes your bug report look like FUD.

- Lack of DNS resolution is a problem that affected many. It is fixed by pre-setting DNS.
- DNS was preset to OpenDNS because it's the best alternative out there.
- DNS presets can be configured by the user or even removed in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail. If you even look in /etc/resolv.conf, you'll see a comment in the header about that.
- Asking unecessary questions to users that they might not understand during the installation... that's just stupid and doesn't deserve to be talked about. You know we don't do that. We make things work out of the box and we let people change stuff.

Your little outburst is "excusable" and DNS preselection is indeed beneficial to Mint users. It's a good thing and it fixes a real issue.

Now, with all that said, the only remaining thing to argue about is "why OpenDNS". At the time of implementation OpenDNS was the best out there. This may have changed, I don't know, and you're welcome to argue about that.

Note that we will not use Google for DNS, for privacy and commercial reasons.

[LaunchPadGirl (9efb3d92)]

Clement the CAPS were only to hightlight certain points and you as the developer of this project should at least be respectful towards the end-users that use Mint and support it...

What you did was wrong, and now you've got the nerve to come on here and say this is all FUD, well I'm sorry sir what you did was FUD in the name of Linux...

There's no drama here other than your lack of respect of Linux and the end-users of Linux by pulling this stunt.

You sir seem to have failed to realize that DNS is a very important issue, also as it relates to security...