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Bug #830584
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Comment 11 for bug 830584

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Julian Edwards (julian-edwards) wrote on 2011-08-24: Re: [Bug 830584] Re: Concerns about the use of +localpackagediffs in Ubuntu

#11

On Wednesday 24 August 2011 13:19:10 you wrote:
> Julian, for the record: in the user testing session I had with you, I
> explicitly said that I thought there were going to be issues of Ubuntu-
> specific policy (such as Ubuntu deltas) that were hard to handle in the
> UI, and that I would rather we used an API script for this. Now, I know
> from a previous conversation that some of the notes from that meeting
> got lost, but please don't turn that into nobody having raised any of
> these issues before ...

Colin, I'm aware of that and I've not lost any notes from that session. It's
based on your direct feedback here that we have consciously not filled all
those use cases in the web UI and made (or are making) the API able to do what
you need.

During all the user testing sessions nobody mentioned any of the specific
issues raised *in this bug*. Here's a raw dump of your own feedback from my
not-lost notes:

* found new pages quickly
* doesn't know what resolved packages means
* didnt get blacklisting right
* cares more about stuff that needs syncing
* wants to hover on the ellipsed comment to see it all
* blacklist terminology is confusing, rename it.
* need to import ubuntu sync blacklist
* archive admins/uploaders only to blacklist
* fix popup text for "read more about syncing"
* search by packagesets and "last uploaded"
* search box text should not "show....matching" as it's not a glob search
* show child packageset
* packagenames should be green link
* blacklist "this version" is not accurate enough, "these versions" maybe
* is only largely interested in packages requiring action, syncing up or
merging down
* think about splitting +localpackagediffs into 2 pages or adding search
option to separate changes only in child or parent
* get rid of update button
* higher versions in child distro are not syncable

In feedback from other people I have listed:
* Need a "search all" regardless of blacklisting status
* Missing navigation links at bottom of page
* Latest comment column is not updating
* Make link to parent clickable
* debdiff with just debian dir would be nice
* make "last common version" clickable
* search by component/person/packageset
* in-page sorting
* rogue line in expanded section

(We have addressed nearly all of these points)

So, can you tell me where this particular bug's issues were raised in user
testing before? I'd like to know so we can fix our process, not point
fingers.

On Wednesday 24 August 2011 13:19:10 you wrote:
> Julian, for the record: in the user testing session I had with you, I
> explicitly said that I thought there were going to be issues of Ubuntu-
> specific policy (such as Ubuntu deltas) that were hard to handle in the
> UI, and that I would rather we used an API script for this.  Now, I know
> from a previous conversation that some of the notes from that meeting
> got lost, but please don't turn that into nobody having raised any of
> these issues before ...

Colin, I'm aware of that and I've not lost any notes from that session.  It's 
based on your direct feedback here that we have consciously not filled all 
those use cases in the web UI and made (or are making) the API able to do what 
you need.

During all the user testing sessions nobody mentioned any of the specific 
issues raised *in this bug*.  Here's a raw dump of your own feedback from my 
not-lost notes:

* found new pages quickly
 * doesn't know what resolved packages means
 * didnt get blacklisting right
 * cares more about stuff that needs syncing
 * wants to hover on the ellipsed comment to see it all
 * blacklist terminology is confusing, rename it.
 * need to import ubuntu sync blacklist
 * archive admins/uploaders only to blacklist
 * fix popup text for "read more about syncing"
 * search by packagesets and "last uploaded"
 * search box text should not "show....matching" as it's not a glob search
 * show child packageset
 * packagenames should be green link
 * blacklist "this version" is not accurate enough, "these versions" maybe
 * is only largely interested in packages requiring action, syncing up or 
merging down
 * think about splitting +localpackagediffs into 2 pages or adding search 
option to separate changes only in child or parent
 * get rid of update button
 * higher versions in child distro are not syncable

In feedback from other people I have listed:
 * Need a "search all" regardless of blacklisting status
 * Missing navigation links at bottom of page
 * Latest comment column is not updating
 * Make link to parent clickable
 * debdiff with just debian dir would be nice
 * make "last common version" clickable
 * search by component/person/packageset
 * in-page sorting
 * rogue line in expanded section

(We have addressed nearly all of these points)

So, can you tell me where this particular bug's issues were raised in user 
testing before?  I'd like to know so we can fix our process, not point 
fingers.