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Comment 27 for bug 1712579

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Jeff Young (jeyjey) wrote on 2018-05-07: Re: [Bug 1712579] Re: Visible indication in Plot / fab file generation that DRC is out-of-date

#27

I think the highest priority is to have the default action be the safe one. That’s not really compatible with the buttons unless we’re willing to flip the sense (having “Plot” do a zone check, and “Whatever-we-call-it” do a plot without zone checking).

So I think going back to the checkbox is the best way forward.

> On 7 May 2018, at 12:58, Wayne Stambaugh <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> On 5/7/2018 5:55 AM, Frank Severinsen wrote:
>> @Jeff @JP
>> why not just have the checkbox in settings which enables the check before plotting?
>> this way it's being set once and then there is now way around it.
>> Also this would avoid the need for multiple buttons which might just be more confusing.
>>
>
> This was my original suggestion. As JP mentioned, it's possible this
> option could get overlooked as there already are a lot of check boxes in
> the plot dialog. I don't have a strong preference for either a check
> box option or a separate button.
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1712579
>
> Title:
> Visible indication in Plot / fab file generation that DRC is out-of-
> date
>
> Status in KiCad:
> Fix Committed
>
> Bug description:
> Hi !
> I would like to request a feature : I think that a mechanism that would check if a (ground) plane collide with a track which don't belong to that plane would be quite useful.
>
> The problem is the following. Imagine that you are designing your PCB. You end it, DRC check it and take a well-deserved pause.
> Some time later, you come back and make some pretty small arrangements in the layout to make it cleaner (You just push/drag/shove a track) and leave it for today.
>
> The next day, you produce the Gerber files, send them and... Oh
> surprise ! Some tracks were fused with the ground plane... Happy
> track-cutting time :D
>
> The problem is the use of the "Don't show filled area in zones" which
> is damn convenient but allow some serious mistakes.
>
> I think that a pop-up like "Would you like to recalculate the zone filling before generating Gerber ?" or best :
> "Warning, you got some tracks mixed up with some filling zones". could save some lives...
> or even running a DRC check before the generation (with, maybe) an option to disable that in the general options
>
> Thanks,
> Julien FAUCHER
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
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I think the highest priority is to have the default action be the safe one.  That’s not really compatible with the buttons unless we’re willing to flip the sense (having “Plot” do a zone check, and “Whatever-we-call-it” do a plot without zone checking).

So I think going back to the checkbox is the best way forward.

> On 7 May 2018, at 12:58, Wayne Stambaugh <1712579@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> 
> On 5/7/2018 5:55 AM, Frank Severinsen wrote:
>> @Jeff @JP
>> why not just have the checkbox in settings which enables the check before plotting?
>> this way it's being set once and then there is now way around it.
>> Also this would avoid the need for multiple buttons which might just be more confusing.
>> 
> 
> This was my original suggestion.  As JP mentioned, it's possible this
> option could get overlooked as there already are a lot of check boxes in
> the plot dialog.  I don't have a strong preference for either a check
> box option or a separate button.
> 
> -- 
> You received this bug notification because you are a bug assignee.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1712579
> 
> Title:
>  Visible indication in Plot / fab file generation that DRC is out-of-
>  date
> 
> Status in KiCad:
>  Fix Committed
> 
> Bug description:
>  Hi !
>  I would like to request a feature : I think that a mechanism that would check if a (ground) plane collide with a track which don't belong to that plane would be quite useful. 
> 
>  The problem is the following. Imagine that you are designing your PCB. You end it, DRC check it and take a well-deserved pause.
>  Some time later, you come back and make some pretty small arrangements in the layout to make it cleaner (You just push/drag/shove a track) and leave it for today.
> 
>  The next day, you produce the Gerber files, send them and... Oh
>  surprise ! Some tracks were fused with the ground plane... Happy
>  track-cutting time :D
> 
>  The problem is the use of the "Don't show filled area in zones" which
>  is damn convenient but allow some serious mistakes.
> 
>  I think that a pop-up like "Would you like to recalculate the zone filling before generating Gerber ?" or best :
>  "Warning, you got some tracks mixed up with some filling zones". could save some lives...
>  or even running a DRC check before the generation (with, maybe) an option to disable that in the general options
> 
>  Thanks,
>  Julien FAUCHER
> 
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1712579/+subscriptions