Comment 1432 for bug 1

You know Windows works on more systems than Ubuntu, did you know that......

I am a senior technician for windows systems with many certifications, and
they warned me about your type........

Maybe Windows is the best system...............

I will wait another 2 or 3 years to see if Ubuntu is worthy of my attention.

Gentilli.

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Randall Ross (rrnwexec) <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> @mzc
> I agree.
>
> @faldegast:
> 1) Why would we market a kernel?
> 2) Running Ubuntu on scrap/old is not putting our best foot forward, and
> creates support issues.
> 3) For the server side, we have Ubuntu Server.
> 4) Ubuntu Software Centre is just that: a store for Ubuntu-compatible
> software. The extension of USC to non-Ubuntu platforms would be
> nightmarish in complexity.
>
>
> On 10-10-22 10:37 AM, mzc wrote:
> > @faldegast. You are suggesting an approach that led to mandriva 's
> > downfall.
> > On Oct 22, 2010 10:26 AM, "Faldegast" <email address hidden> wrote:
> >> What i suggest for Ubuntu is the following:
> >>
> >> 1. A Ubuntu/Linux/Elf software store. It should be designed so that it
> >> can ship applications for many OS:es, not just Ubuntu.
> >>
> >> 2. A Ubuntu Pro commercial offering. Including boxed Ubuntu, a manual,
> >> and support. Also some commercial stuff like DVD player.
> >>
> >> Ubuntu currently has Fluendo Windows Media and MP3 Playback Pack,
> Fluendo
> > Complete Playback Pack and PowerDVD Linux in its online shop. These
> should
> > either be provided trough a software store, or included in "Ubuntu Pro".
> >> I would also see more commercial Linux applications there. For example i
> > know there is a Ubuntu version of Majesty. I know for sure that i would
> buy
> > that.
> >> 3. Both of above need a reseller plan. OEMs that preinstall a software
> >> store or Ubuntu Pro have to make money out of it. And Ubuntu pro should
> >> not be cheap.
> >>
> >> A software store and a commercial Linux with a distribution network is
> >> what we need. I am certain that this is exactly what we need. For
> >> servers we have RHEL but for clients the only thing available is
> >> Mandriva, but they effort to build a distribution network is to weak.
> >> They focus on an online store, and I believe thats their weakness.
> >> Operating Systems is OEM products and they are usually sold with
> >> computers, so we must target the OEM builders.
> >>
> >> While i have talked a lot about technology on this issue, technology is
> >> not a #1 bug issue. We have technology, what we need to fix bug #1 is
> >> marketing.
> >>
> >> There is no reason why Linux should have less usage share then OS X.
> >> Linux can run on much more hardware that OS X supports, and it have a
> >> great community.
> >>
> >> On another front, i think the idea of recycling old computers with
> >> Ubuntu and give them to those that cannot afford a brand new PC is
> >> excellent. I have done this a lot with lubuntu on really old computers.
> >> I also have a ThinLinc server that can be used to run applications that
> >> old computers are to weak to run. Its not fast enough for youtube,
> >> however they can play mpeg2. Perhaps an application like minitube can
> >> use a proxy server for transcoding to mpeg2 before a clip reach the old
> >> box?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Martin,
> >>>
> >>> True. Again i agree with that and i think we are in agreement again. So
> > the
> >>> various points people have made are valid except where we talk about
> > noobs
> >>> installing.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Surely a shop that installs to perhaps tens of machines has time to
> play
> > around
> >>> with even just 1 and has probably noticed all the quirkiness of
> > installing
> >>> Windows onto a wide range of very different machines and might realise
> > that
> >>> lack of knowledge might be the main barrier to a smoother install of
> > Ubuntu (or
> >>> other distro). Perhaps it is those people that we should target rather
> > than
> >>> normal users or people that do the odd one or two. Continuing to
> approach
> > both
> >>> is probably still best.
> >>>
> >>> Regards from
> >>> Tom :)
> >> --
> >> Microsoft has a majority market share
> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> >> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> >> of the bug.
> >>
> >> Status in Club Distro: Confirmed
> >> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
> >> Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
> >> Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix
> >> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
> >> Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
> >> Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress
> >> Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress
> >> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress
> >> Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
> >> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
> >> Status in Tv-Player: New
> >> Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
> >> Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> >> Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid
> >> Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid
> >> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid
> >> Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress
> >> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
> >> Status in openSUSE: In Progress
> >> Status in Tilix Linux: New
> >>
> >> Bug description:
> >> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
> >> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
> >>
> >> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
> > restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and
> > limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full
> potential,
> > globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
> >> Steps to repeat:
> >>
> >> 1. Visit a local PC store.
> >>
> >> What happens:
> >> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software
> > pre-installed.
> >> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
> >>
> >> What should happen:
> >> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
> > Ubuntu.
> >> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
> > benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> >> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscribe
>
> --
> Microsoft has a majority market share
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in Club Distro: Confirmed
> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid
> Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix
> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid
> Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid
> Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress
> Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress
> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress
> Status in Tabuntu: Invalid
> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid
> Status in Tv-Player: New
> Status in Ubuntu: In Progress
> Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid
> Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid
> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid
> Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress
> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed
> Status in openSUSE: In Progress
> Status in Tilix Linux: New
>
> Bug description:
> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
>
> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
> restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and
> limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential,
> globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>
> Steps to repeat:
>
> 1. Visit a local PC store.
>
> What happens:
> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software
> pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
> Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
> benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscribe
>
>