Comment 98 for bug 11334

After I reported a copy and paste related bug [Bug 417758] i was notified
that it was a duplicate of Bug 11334.

I read the report and thread for Bug 11334 and notified the person who
contacted me that my problem was NOT the same as one reported in 11334.

to reiterate and clarify:

Either:

 Bug 417758 is NOT a duplicate of Bug 11334.

Or:

 Bug 11334 does not describe the full scope of the problem.

Explanation:

The problem described in Bug 11334 is that if the user selects and copies
in one window, closes the source window, and the tries to paste into
another window the paste will fail.

The problem I reported in Bug 417758 is that if the user selects and copies
in one window and tries to paste into another window the paste fails even
if the source window remains open and the selection is intact. While the
problem is frequent it is also intermittent and reproducing it is a hit or
miss affair.

Please note that the thread for Bug 11334 attributes the problem to native
X-Window behavior, which could explain the problem described in 11334 but
DOES NOT EXPLAIN the problem described in Bug 417758.

These may be two different problems or Bug 11334 may be more extensive than
previously realized.

Please also note that I spent several frustrating hours last weekend on
correspondence regarding Ubuntu bugs including this issue and this will be
my last communication on the matter. I have found the correspondence i
received dismissive, condescending, and indicative of poor practice. (That
is, you are not reading the bug reports thoroughly.) I refuse to put any
more time into this.

IMHO the way this bug has been treated illustrates some of reasons Ubuntu
continues to have significant usability issues.

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Eric Fluger

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Endolith wrote:

> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:27:57 -0000
> From: Endolith <email address hidden>
> Reply-To: Bug 11334 <email address hidden>
> To: <email address hidden>
> Subject: [Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed
> before the paste
>
> Previous discussions:
>
> http://elliotth.blogspot.com/2008/08/desktop-linux-suckage-clipboard.html
> http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/2008/05/i-hate-copy-and-paste.html
> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3118/
> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16966/
>
> --
> Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>
> Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Invalid
> Status in Ubuntu: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
>
> This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully* support trivial things like copy/paste.
>
> Fortunately this works well in KDE.
>
>
> This -could- be the underlying cause of bug #7986.
> This is a general issue that seems to be independant of any individual program.
> Pick any text field that supports copying, copy some text. Paste into any other
> text field. It works. Close the source window or program. Paste now does
> nothing. The example I just verified this with is gedit to gedit. Also occurs
> with openoffice to gedit.
>
> In some cases, like OpenOffice and Firefox, simply closing the source window
> won't cause the problem. It only happens if the entire program is closed down.
>