Comment 145 for bug 11334

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Tralalalala (tralalalala) wrote :

Olaf wrote 49 minutes ago:
"I really believe most people prefer speed and hardware support
and reducing reggressions as high priority issues."

The most important is to have an operating system you can trust, an operating system which is reliable, an operating system that doesn't forget something you told him only one second ago.

Olaf wrote 49 minutes ago:
"But if having to paste first and close the first app later is too much
effort and this really is a fatal issue in anybodies opinion - then - yes -
pick a platform where the issues are a better fit for your preferences."

It's not that keeping the application open is much effort, but you have to remember to keep an application open everytime you want to perfom a copy/paste. If you forget to keep the application open ALL WORK IS LOST. Besides that, how do people know they have to keep the source open? It isn't mentioned anywhere. According to http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 92.52% is running Windows and 5.27% is running Mac OS. That's 97.79% of all desktops in the world on which you don't have to remember to keep the source open. Because of this no one expects everything is lost after closing the source. How do you expect those switching from Windows or Mac OS to know they have to keep the source open? Almost everyone in the world will just close the source before pasting, because they expect it to work and they really have no clue what's going on if the option to paste is greyed out. They absolutely have no idea what's going on. How do you expect those people to know they have to keep the source open?

Keeping the source open is a strange way to copy/paste anyway. Just make it work as everyone expects it to work, The way it works on Windows and Mac OS is the abvious way for copy/paste to work.

Jackflap wrote 36 minutes ago:
"Well, it looks like some nice developer has volunteered his time to the Mozilla suite to fix this bug (iirc), and progress is being made to fix this for Firefox.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340"

That's useless. It needs to be fixed in X, so it will work in every application and in every desktop environment. Now it'll be fixed in Firefox, but what happens when using the GIMP? Yes, copy/paste doesn't work. There are thousands of applications that can be installed, so it needs to be fixed in all of those applications. Do you think the developers of all of those applications will implement the clipboard specification from FreeDesktop? It's taking ages for a big application like Firefox to implement this copy/paste function, so how long do you think it will take for every application to implement this? Answer: it will never happen. There are too many applications and new applications keep on coming and almost none of these applications uses the clipboard specification from FreeDesktop.

Besides that, it will only work in Gnome. How about the other desktop environments and how about running KDE-applications in Gnome? As I said for about 30 times before: This is the wrong way to fix this bug. It needs to be fixed in X. After fixing X copy/paste will work in every applications in every desktop environment.