Comment 5 for bug 710599

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Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov) wrote : [Bug 710599] Re: gschem: be less verbose on start-up

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 06:03:20PM -0000, KaiMartin wrote:
> For the record, I do not propose to remove the status messages. I'd just
> like to not show them by default. That is, only show them if --verbose
> is in place.
>
> The status messages do break something if all is fine: They break the
> confidence of (very) new users. I have had more than one user confuse
> them for errors on their first runs. I have also seen users falsely
> interpret genuine warnings to be harmless status messages.
>
> The legalese ("... NO WARRANTY ...") does not provide any insight as to
> what stage something went wrong. It just adds to the chatter. Users
> learn by experience to "ignore messages in the log".
>
> At work I teach geda to people who need to do a little electronics
> project here and there. The mixture of messages ranging from totally
> harmless, to informational, to smoking gun of a misconfiguration makes
> it hard for me to teach simple rules like: "Make sure gschem does not
> send errors or warnings in the log window."
>
> ---<)kaimartin(>---
>

So, IIUC, the only part you object to is the legalese?
I cannot agree that info on which files were loaded and which
schematics were opened is useless. Errors may happen during
loading either a config file, or a schematic/symbol file.

--
  Vladimir