Comment 1509 for bug 1

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Faldegast (faldegast) wrote : RE: [Bug 1]

> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:51:50 +0000
> From: <email address hidden>
> To: <email address hidden>
> Subject: Re: [Bug 1]
>
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 00:25, Faldegast <email address hidden> wrote:
> > Personally i think MSN is an important showstopper.
> > Linux implementations of MSN lacks important
> > futures such as cam support, and there are no good alternative.
>
> I find much more people - even at companies - using Skype over MSN
> (anyway, final result is the same now ;-) ).

Thats probably bc you are talking to tech ppl and not to average users. MSN still has a far more massive userbase then Skype. But yes having Skypes functionality in the protocol would be nice.

>
>
> > The problem with implementing MSN or other proprietary protocols is that
> > most of the time is spent in trying to preserve portability. I would
> > suggest designing a new MSN-like protocol that is easy to implement. It
> > should have open specifications, and it should reuse existing FOSS
> > projects as much as possible. Also it should be platform-agnostic, it is
> > perhaps more important to have a Windows client then a Linux client.
> > Remember that Firefox would never have made the web platform agnostic
> > without attracting the Windows users.
>
> Agree.
>
>
> > First of all we would need a centralized single sign-on service like
> > passport, that use e-mail and password to sing in.
>
> There is already OpenID - but I don't use it much anyway - I don't
> like the idea bet everything on one horse. When my openid would then
> get hacked and somebody changes password I loose everything at once.
> I use KeePassX which serves me well to manage different passwords.

I know about OpenID but it has a lot of problems. First its non-intuitive and requires some learning before using. Passport does not require much learning as it uses e-mail plus password, a scheme that many websites already uses.

This is why it is important that the organization running the identity service is someone we can trust. If it is hacked there must be a quick way to get support.
This is similar to the problem of stolen VISA cards. We can call our bank and quickly disable in, and get a new one. This is one of the problems with OpenID, what provider should i choose in order to feel safe? I know Google and Facebook is no alternative... I would feel somewhat more safe with the local computer club but what if it is closed down? And even large companies may disappear...

>
> I have put together also a few comments to the reasons of not using
> Linux, mentioned earlier, who is interested follow this link:
> http://it-tactics.blogspot.com/2011/07/why-companies-do-not-use-linux-on.html

I will read it later. However my main point is that average users is far more important then companies. It is the average users that run companies. If the IT department insist on using Windows when users want Linux, they will lose employees end eventually money.

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> Title:
> Microsoft has a majority market share
>
> Status in Club Distro:
> Confirmed
> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu:
> Confirmed
> Status in dylan.NET.Reflection:
> Invalid
> Status in dylan.NET:
> Invalid
> Status in EasyPeasy Overview:
> Invalid
> Status in elementary OS:
> Invalid
> Status in GenOS:
> In Progress
> Status in GNOME Screensaver:
> Won't Fix
> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians:
> Invalid
> Status in JAK LINUX:
> Invalid
> Status in LibreOffice:
> In Progress
> Status in The Linux OS Project:
> In Progress
> Status in The Metacity Window Manager:
> In Progress
> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
> In Progress
> Status in Tabuntu:
> Invalid
> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming:
> Invalid
> Status in Tv-Player:
> New
> Status in Ubuntu Gnome Remix Metapackages:
> In Progress
> Status in Ubuntu:
> In Progress
> Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu:
> In Progress
> Status in The Jaunty Jackalope:
> Invalid
> Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty:
> Invalid
> Status in Arch Linux:
> New
> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux:
> Invalid
> Status in “linux” package in Debian:
> In Progress
> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS:
> Confirmed
> Status in openSUSE:
> In Progress
> Status in Tilix Linux:
> New
>
> Bug description:
> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace.
> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix.
>
> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry,
> restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and
> limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full
> potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>
> Steps to repeat:
>
> 1. Visit a local PC store.
>
> What happens:
> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
>
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