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Mark Cariaga (mzc) wrote on 2013-05-30: Re: [Bug 1] Re: Microsoft has a majority market share

#1836

Great job Ubuntu! It's time to file a regression... Localized bug
perhaps... It's the lack of retail presence (e.g. Walmart, best buy, etc)
of Ubuntu desktop and laptops in North America. And yes, there are
popular online stores here, but not that much physical stores yet.
On 2013-05-30 3:46 AM, "Mark Shuttleworth" <email address hidden> wrote:

> Personal computing today is a broader proposition than it was in 2004:
> phones, tablets, wearables and other devices are all part of the mix for
> our digital lives. From a competitive perspective, that broader market
> has healthy competition, with IOS and Android representing a meaningful
> share (see http://www.zdnet.com/windows-has-fallen-behind-apple-ios-and-
> google-android-7000008699/ and in particular http://cdn-
>
> static.zdnet.com/i/r/story/70/00/008699/meeker620-620x466-620x466.jpg?hash=ZQxmZmDjAz&upscale=1
> ).
>
> Android may not be my or your first choice of Linux, but it is without
> doubt an open source platform that offers both practical and economic
> benefits to users and industry. So we have both competition, and good
> representation for open source, in personal computing.
>
> Even though we have only played a small part in that shift, I think it's
> important for us to recognize that the shift has taken place. So from
> Ubuntu's perspective, this bug is now closed.
>
> There is a social element to this bug report as well, of course. It
> served for many as a sort of declaration of intent. But it's better for
> us to focus our intent on excellence in our own right, rather than our
> impact on someone else's product. In the (many) years since this bug was
> filed, we've figured out how to be amazing on the cloud, and I hope soon
> also how to be amazing for developers on their desktops, and perhaps
> even for everyday users across that full range of devices. I would
> rather we find a rallying call that celebrates those insights, and
> leadership.
>
> It's worth noting that today, if you're into cloud computing, the
> Microsoft IAAS team are both technically excellent and very focused on
> having ALL OS's including Linux guests like Ubuntu run extremely well on
> Azure, making them a pleasure to work with. Perhaps the market shift has
> played a role in that. Circumstances have changed, institutions have
> adapted, so should we.
>
> Along those lines, it's good to reflect on how much has changed since
> 2004, and how fast it's changed. For Ubuntu, our goal remains to deliver
> fantastic experiences: for developers, for people building out
> production infrastructure, and for end-users on a range of devices. We
> are doing all of that in an environment that changes completely every
> decade. So we have to be willing to make big changes ourselves - in our
> processes, our practices, our tools, and our relationships. Change this
> bug status is but a tiny example.
>
> ** Changed in: ubuntu
> Status: In Progress => Fix Released
>
> ** Also affects: Ubuntu Dapper
> Importance: Undecided
> Status: New
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
>
> Title:
> Microsoft has a majority market share
>
> Status in Club Distro:
> Confirmed
> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu:
> Confirmed
> Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite:
> New
> Status in dylan.NET.Reflection:
> Invalid
> Status in dylan.NET:
> Invalid
> Status in EasyPeasy Overview:
> Invalid
> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians:
> Invalid
> Status in JAK LINUX:
> Invalid
> Status in LibreOffice:
> In Progress
> Status in The Linux Kernel:
> New
> Status in The Linux Mint Distribution:
> In Progress
> Status in The Linux OS Project:
> In Progress
> Status in Neobot:
> New
> Status in Novabot:
> New
> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
> In Progress
> Status in Tabuntu:
> Invalid
> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming:
> Invalid
> Status in Tv-Player:
> Invalid
> Status in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team Meta Project:
> In Progress
> Status in Ubuntu:
> Fix Released
> Status in The Dapper Drake:
> New
> Status in Arch Linux:
> Confirmed
> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux:
> Invalid
> Status in “linux” package in Debian:
> In Progress
> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS:
> Confirmed
> Status in openSUSE:
> In Progress
> Status in Tilix Linux:
> New
>
> Bug description:
> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC
> marketplace. This is a bug which Ubuntu and other projects are meant
> to fix. As the philosophy of the Ubuntu Project states, "Our work is
> driven by a belief that software should be free and accessible to
> all."
>
> "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be. Free software
> gives everyone the freedom to use it however they want and share with
> whoever they like. This freedom has huge benefits. At one end of the
> spectrum it enables the Ubuntu community to grow and share its collective
> experience and expertise to continually improve all things Ubuntu. At the
> other, we are able to give access to essential software for those who
> couldn’t otherwise afford it – an advantage that’s keenly felt by
> individuals and organisations all over the world."
> * http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy
>
> Non-free software leaves users at the mercy of the software owner and
> concentrates control over the technology which powers our society into
> the hands of a few. Additionally, proprietary software stifles
> innovation, maintains artificial scarcities, and enables malicious
> anti-features such as DRM, surveillance, and other monopolistic
> practices.
>
> This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>
> Steps to repeat:
>
> 1. Visit a local PC store.
> 2. Attempt to buy a machine without any proprietary software.
>
> What happens:
>
> Almost always, a majority of PCs for sale have Microsoft Windows pre-
> installed. In the rare cases that they come with a GNU/Linux operating
> system or no operating system at all, the drivers and BIOS may be
> proprietary.
>
> What should happen:
>
> A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software.
>
> * http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
> * http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
> * http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscriptions
>

Great job Ubuntu!   It's time to file a regression... Localized bug
perhaps... It's the lack of retail presence (e.g.  Walmart, best buy, etc)
of Ubuntu desktop and laptops in North America.   And yes, there are
popular online stores here, but not that much physical stores yet.
On 2013-05-30 3:46 AM, "Mark Shuttleworth" <1@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:

> Personal computing today is a broader proposition than it was in 2004:
> phones, tablets, wearables and other devices are all part of the mix for
> our digital lives. From a competitive perspective, that broader market
> has healthy competition, with IOS and Android representing a meaningful
> share (see http://www.zdnet.com/windows-has-fallen-behind-apple-ios-and-
> google-android-7000008699/ and in particular http://cdn-
>
> static.zdnet.com/i/r/story/70/00/008699/meeker620-620x466-620x466.jpg?hash=ZQxmZmDjAz&upscale=1
> ).
>
> Android may not be my or your first choice of Linux, but it is without
> doubt an open source platform that offers both practical and economic
> benefits to users and industry. So we have both competition, and good
> representation for open source, in personal computing.
>
> Even though we have only played a small part in that shift, I think it's
> important for us to recognize that the shift has taken place. So from
> Ubuntu's perspective, this bug is now closed.
>
> There is a social element to this bug report as well, of course. It
> served for many as a sort of declaration of intent. But it's better for
> us to focus our intent on excellence in our own right, rather than our
> impact on someone else's product. In the (many) years since this bug was
> filed, we've figured out how to be amazing on the cloud, and I hope soon
> also how to be amazing for developers on their desktops, and perhaps
> even for everyday users across that full range of devices. I would
> rather we find a rallying call that celebrates those insights, and
> leadership.
>
> It's worth noting that today, if you're into cloud computing, the
> Microsoft IAAS team are both technically excellent and very focused on
> having ALL OS's including Linux guests like Ubuntu run extremely well on
> Azure, making them a pleasure to work with. Perhaps the market shift has
> played a role in that. Circumstances have changed, institutions have
> adapted, so should we.
>
> Along those lines, it's good to reflect on how much has changed since
> 2004, and how fast it's changed. For Ubuntu, our goal remains to deliver
> fantastic experiences: for developers, for people building out
> production infrastructure, and for end-users on a range of devices. We
> are doing all of that in an environment that changes completely every
> decade. So we have to be willing to make big changes ourselves - in our
> processes, our practices, our tools, and our relationships. Change this
> bug status is but a tiny example.
>
> ** Changed in: ubuntu
>        Status: In Progress => Fix Released
>
> ** Also affects: Ubuntu Dapper
>    Importance: Undecided
>        Status: New
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
>
> Title:
>   Microsoft has a majority market share
>
> Status in Club Distro:
>   Confirmed
> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu:
>   Confirmed
> Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite:
>   New
> Status in dylan.NET.Reflection:
>   Invalid
> Status in dylan.NET:
>   Invalid
> Status in EasyPeasy Overview:
>   Invalid
> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians:
>   Invalid
> Status in JAK LINUX:
>   Invalid
> Status in LibreOffice:
>   In Progress
> Status in The Linux Kernel:
>   New
> Status in The Linux Mint Distribution:
>   In Progress
> Status in The Linux OS Project:
>   In Progress
> Status in Neobot:
>   New
> Status in Novabot:
>   New
> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
>   In Progress
> Status in Tabuntu:
>   Invalid
> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming:
>   Invalid
> Status in Tv-Player:
>   Invalid
> Status in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team Meta Project:
>   In Progress
> Status in Ubuntu:
>   Fix Released
> Status in The Dapper Drake:
>   New
> Status in Arch Linux:
>   Confirmed
> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux:
>   Invalid
> Status in “linux” package in Debian:
>   In Progress
> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS:
>   Confirmed
> Status in openSUSE:
>   In Progress
> Status in Tilix Linux:
>   New
>
> Bug description:
>   Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC
>   marketplace. This is a bug which Ubuntu and other projects are meant
>   to fix. As the philosophy of the Ubuntu Project states, "Our work is
>   driven by a belief that software should be free and accessible to
>   all."
>
>   "Ubuntu software is free. Always was, always will be. Free software
> gives everyone the freedom to use it however they want and share with
> whoever they like. This freedom has huge benefits. At one end of the
> spectrum it enables the Ubuntu community to grow and share its collective
> experience and expertise to continually improve all things Ubuntu. At the
> other, we are able to give access to essential software for those who
> couldn’t otherwise afford it – an advantage that’s keenly felt by
> individuals and organisations all over the world."
>        * http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy
>
>   Non-free software leaves users at the mercy of the software owner and
>   concentrates control over the technology which powers our society into
>   the hands of a few. Additionally, proprietary software stifles
>   innovation, maintains artificial scarcities, and enables malicious
>   anti-features such as DRM, surveillance, and other monopolistic
>   practices.
>
>   This bug is widely evident in the PC industry.
>
>   Steps to repeat:
>
>       1. Visit a local PC store.
>       2. Attempt to buy a machine without any proprietary software.
>
>   What happens:
>
>   Almost always, a majority of PCs for sale have Microsoft Windows pre-
>   installed. In the rare cases that they come with a GNU/Linux operating
>   system or no operating system at all, the drivers and BIOS may be
>   proprietary.
>
>   What should happen:
>
>   A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software.
>
>        * http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
>        * http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
>        * http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscriptions
>