Comment 7 for bug 678024

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Jason Gerard DeRose (jderose) wrote :

Just chatting with tonsofpcs in #novacut and he mentioned tracking the UUID of the cards, which can help us provide a workflow similar to many people are used to.

I've personally thought of tracking this for auditing and wear leveling, so kill 2 birds with one stone. Here's the explanation that tonsofpcs gave:

(08:54:56 PM) tonsofpcs: no, based on the reel you ened to know the reel
(08:55:12 PM) tonsofpcs: film guyss log while they shoot
(08:55:15 PM) tonsofpcs: in three places:
(08:55:17 PM) tonsofpcs: 1) Paper
(08:55:21 PM) tonsofpcs: 2) Video (slate)
(08:55:27 PM) tonsofpcs: 3) audio (read before clapping the slate)
(08:56:44 PM) tonsofpcs: the paper gets "reel" and "time" (or, for discrete files where you don't care how mmany feet into the film you are, "clip", often multiple times over due to multiple cameras at once, multiple audio recordings, etc.) and everything from the slate/audio
(08:57:25 PM) jderose: okay, i'm starting to get it...
(08:57:48 PM) tonsofpcs: the paper also gets notes on what happens (and often there are multiple paper logs with different notes, like a huge production would have someone doing continuity that will write "mike walks in from left out-of-frame")
(08:58:17 PM) jderose: okay, gotcha
(08:58:32 PM) tonsofpcs: the slate (both visual and aural) gets "Scene 7 Take A" or somesuch so that if the logging has issues, it can be found out later (this was more for the days when we didn't have isolated files so you could find the end points as you woulldn't load a new reel for every take)
(08:59:49 PM) tonsofpcs: the slate is also used for its most recognizable use -- a visual and aural 'clap' to synchronize the two tracks
(08:59:54 PM) tonsofpcs: (or more)
(09:00:33 PM) jderose: tonsofpcs: so we want to have novacut be able to drive production workflow... so you would pick the scene your working on (on a workstation, or phone or tablet or whatever)... you can see notes, add notes....
(09:01:39 PM) tonsofpcs: well, the film and video workflows are (usually) entirely different
(09:01:46 PM) jderose: after you finish so many takes, whenever a logical point is, you import the cards (while setup for next shot is ongoing)... this way someone can to rough edits right there so director and DP can review, see if they want to do anything again while it's still cheap and easy to do so
(09:01:52 PM) tonsofpcs: even if the media may be the same at this point, they're entirely different style
(09:02:41 PM) jderose: true, but i think we can caputure the tacking you want, and make it easy to associate the paper notes with the equivalent of the "real"
(09:03:22 PM) tonsofpcs: right, you just have to ask for the reel name/number on card insertion
(09:03:33 PM) tonsofpcs: yes, this requires a keyboard (maybe just a 10key).
(09:03:38 PM) tonsofpcs: (or a touch screen)