Comment 6 for bug 10973

Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 23:09:22 +0100
From: "David A. van Leeuwen" <email address hidden>
To: Branden Robinson <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#284448: xserver-xfree86: xserver (ATI or Radeon something
 7500) crashes on variouslaunches of programcs from within X.

Branden Robinson wrote:

>If the justification is "unknown", it might as well not be present.
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Sorry, this is my first bug report (after using debian for many years,
since 0.7 or so), and I believe the script suggested that.

>This bug is not a report of a Policy violation, nor does failure of the X
>server to work on a particular piece of video hardware -- notably one which you
>haven't actually identified -- constitute a bug which renders the package
>"unsuitable" for release.
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unsuitable it is, therefore. But since today it has become worse. My
computer at home, with---from lspci:
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
86C326 5598/6326 (rev d2)
---graphics card now shows the same behaviour.

X-Server crashes on rxvt launch from gnome panel. Happened several
times now. I had a xserver-xfree86-3.1.0.dfsg.1-4 .deb left around, I
am using that now, hoping it won't die on my while composing the message...

>A crashing bug that affected all users of xserver-xfree86 would be a different
>story.
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Well, so first there was the ati/radeon 7500 and now the SiS 6326.

>>The data below are not really applicable, because I've put in another
>>video card. I've spent more than a day re/configuring. Problem is,
>>that various launches (from gnome panel, from terminal) of various
>>programs (rxvt, galeon, wmware) cause the Xserver to crash. (I
>>sincerely hope) it is specific to the ati or radeon video card/driver
>>`ati' or `radeon'.
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>Probably -- most crashing bugs are in hardware specific code, either in the 2D
>XFree86 driver, or the 3D DRI driver.
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I believe I am not using 3D, not using DRI in the case of the ati/radeon
7500 (I commented the module out at some stage without positive effect).

>>I've used the ati video card happily without problems for over a year.
>>I had to change from stable to sarge because xfree 4.1.0 didn't
>>support the card. Since 3 dec 2004 somehow, X-server crashes. It
>>might have been the upgrade to 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 at some upgrade to
>>`sarge' in the past, but I can't find any earlier problemless xserver
>>anymore from the archives to test this hypothesis.
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>Are you aware of snapshot.debian.net? It would be *extremely* helpful to know
>at which package version this regression in functionality took place.
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No, I wasn't unfortunately. I needed it desparately.

>>The data below is not so accurate w.r.t the video card, since that has
>>been replaced in this machine. Sorry about that.
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>We're simply going to have to have accurate information before we can proceed.
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>[The following is a form letter.]
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Thanks---I will try this. In a way I am happy that this problem now
occurs at home as well.
I was extremely frustrated finding a solution for my crashing X-server
at work, having spent more than a day on it very unsuccesfully.
Now I can spend some of my own time on the problem.

---david