Excerpts from bdoe's message of Tue May 24 20:54:25 UTC 2011:
> >On a functional level perhaps it is worth considering whether Network
> >Manager, on stopping, should simply leave the interfaces as currently
> >configured instead of taking them down. I can make the argument that
> >Network Manager is a tool to make it easy for the user to control
> >network interfaces, but Network Manager is not the owner of those
> >interfaces, the system and user are. If the user makes a connection using
> >Network Manger and then disables NM, why shouldn't the interface stay
> >up until the user or a shutdown sequence takes it down?
>
> Good point. However, an argument could also be made that if a user uses
> Network Manager to set up and establish the network connections, the
> user expects Network Manager to own and manage those connections. A
> logical extension of this expectation is that, when Network Manager is
> shut down, it takes its connections with it. If the user wants a more
> "permanent" connection, then the user should set up the connection
> manually. At least, that's the way I would expect things to work.
Right, lets make sure this discussion happens in the right place,
which would be in the GNOME bug report.
Excerpts from bdoe's message of Tue May 24 20:54:25 UTC 2011:
> >On a functional level perhaps it is worth considering whether Network
> >Manager, on stopping, should simply leave the interfaces as currently
> >configured instead of taking them down. I can make the argument that
> >Network Manager is a tool to make it easy for the user to control
> >network interfaces, but Network Manager is not the owner of those
> >interfaces, the system and user are. If the user makes a connection using
> >Network Manger and then disables NM, why shouldn't the interface stay
> >up until the user or a shutdown sequence takes it down?
>
> Good point. However, an argument could also be made that if a user uses
> Network Manager to set up and establish the network connections, the
> user expects Network Manager to own and manage those connections. A
> logical extension of this expectation is that, when Network Manager is
> shut down, it takes its connections with it. If the user wants a more
> "permanent" connection, then the user should set up the connection
> manually. At least, that's the way I would expect things to work.
Right, lets make sure this discussion happens in the right place,
which would be in the GNOME bug report.