My personal thoughts are that the proposal is nothing if not carefully
considered...! Lots of great discussion and input. There is plenty of
opportunity for people to provide feedback on whether or how the change
impacts them in ways we were unable to foresee.
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:31 PM Christian Ehrhardt <
<email address hidden>> wrote:
> While there was sadly neither enough time not enough resources to do all
> the deep dive analysis that could have been done, we succeeded by
> reaching out to many more parties and got their input as well. Thank you
> all!
>
> Since Noble feature freeze is coming we need to make a call either way.
> I proposed the underlying seed change [1].
> And even once accepted that has to be followed by an update to ubuntu-meta.
> Furthermore we'd have more follow up, like enabling it in special cases
> like the AWS images for the reasons Fabio mentioned.
>
> Of course this is just a proposal. There are many other options left,
> from not changing anything to more subtle counters to my proposal like
> only doing so in 24.10 to give things more time, to holding back until
> someone found time/resource to gather more data.
>
> But for now, I feel "Not enabling it by default, but enabling
> selectively where identified to be wanted" seems to be the better choice
> - and that is what I proposed.
>
> [1]: https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/ubuntu-
> seeds/+git/platform/+merge/460904
>
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> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1833322
>
> Title:
> Please consider no more having irqbalance enabled by default (per
> image/use-case/TBD)
>
> Status in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems:
> Confirmed
> Status in irqbalance package in Ubuntu:
> Confirmed
> Status in ubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu:
> Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> as per https://github.com/pop-os/default-settings/issues/60
>
> Distribution (run cat /etc/os-release):
>
> $ cat /etc/os-release
> NAME="Pop!_OS"
> VERSION="19.04"
> ID=ubuntu
> ID_LIKE=debian
> PRETTY_NAME="Pop!_OS 19.04"
> VERSION_ID="19.04"
> HOME_URL="https://system76.com/pop"
> SUPPORT_URL="http://support.system76.com"
> BUG_REPORT_URL="https://github.com/pop-os/pop/issues"
> PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="https://system76.com/privacy"
> VERSION_CODENAME=disco
> UBUNTU_CODENAME=disco
>
> Related Application and/or Package Version (run apt policy $PACKAGE
> NAME):
>
> $ apt policy irqbalance
> irqbalance:
> Installed: 1.5.0-3ubuntu1
> Candidate: 1.5.0-3ubuntu1
> Version table:
> *** 1.5.0-3ubuntu1 500
> 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu disco/main amd64 Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>
> $ apt rdepends irqbalance
> irqbalance
> Reverse Depends:
> Recommends: ubuntu-standard
> gce-compute-image-packages
>
> Issue/Bug Description:
>
> as per konkor/cpufreq#48 and
> http://konkor.github.io/cpufreq/faq/#irqbalance-detected
>
> irqbalance is technically not needed on desktop systems (supposedly it
> is mainly for servers), and may actually reduce performance and power
> savings. It appears to provide benefits only to server environments
> that have relatively-constant loading. If it is truly a server-
> oriented package, then it shouldn't be installed by default on a
> desktop/laptop system and shouldn't be included in desktop OS images.
>
> Steps to reproduce (if you know):
>
> This is potentially an issue with all default installs.
>
> Expected behavior:
>
> n/a
>
> Other Notes:
>
> I can safely remove it via "sudo apt purge irqbalance" without any
> apparent adverse side-effects. If someone is running a situation where
> they need it, then they always have the option of installing it from
> the repositories.
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-z-systems/+bug/1833322/+subscriptions
>
>
My personal thoughts are that the proposal is nothing if not carefully
considered...! Lots of great discussion and input. There is plenty of
opportunity for people to provide feedback on whether or how the change
impacts them in ways we were unable to foresee.
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:31 PM Christian Ehrhardt <
<email address hidden>> wrote:
> While there was sadly neither enough time not enough resources to do all /code.launchpad .net/~paelzer/ ubuntu- git/platform/ +merge/ 460904 /bugs.launchpad .net/bugs/ 1833322 /github. com/pop- os/default- settings/ issues/ 60 NAME="Pop! _OS 19.04" /system76. com/pop" support. system76. com" /github. com/pop- os/pop/ issues" POLICY_ URL="https:/ /system76. com/privacy" CODENAME= disco CODENAME= disco us.archive. ubuntu. com/ubuntu disco/main amd64 Packages dpkg/status image-packages konkor. github. io/cpufreq/ faq/#irqbalance -detected /bugs.launchpad .net/ubuntu- z-systems/ +bug/1833322/ +subscriptions
> the deep dive analysis that could have been done, we succeeded by
> reaching out to many more parties and got their input as well. Thank you
> all!
>
> Since Noble feature freeze is coming we need to make a call either way.
> I proposed the underlying seed change [1].
> And even once accepted that has to be followed by an update to ubuntu-meta.
> Furthermore we'd have more follow up, like enabling it in special cases
> like the AWS images for the reasons Fabio mentioned.
>
> Of course this is just a proposal. There are many other options left,
> from not changing anything to more subtle counters to my proposal like
> only doing so in 24.10 to give things more time, to holding back until
> someone found time/resource to gather more data.
>
> But for now, I feel "Not enabling it by default, but enabling
> selectively where identified to be wanted" seems to be the better choice
> - and that is what I proposed.
>
> [1]: https:/
> seeds/+
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https:/
>
> Title:
> Please consider no more having irqbalance enabled by default (per
> image/use-case/TBD)
>
> Status in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems:
> Confirmed
> Status in irqbalance package in Ubuntu:
> Confirmed
> Status in ubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu:
> Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> as per https:/
>
> Distribution (run cat /etc/os-release):
>
> $ cat /etc/os-release
> NAME="Pop!_OS"
> VERSION="19.04"
> ID=ubuntu
> ID_LIKE=debian
> PRETTY_
> VERSION_ID="19.04"
> HOME_URL="https:/
> SUPPORT_URL="http://
> BUG_REPORT_URL="https:/
> PRIVACY_
> VERSION_
> UBUNTU_
>
> Related Application and/or Package Version (run apt policy $PACKAGE
> NAME):
>
> $ apt policy irqbalance
> irqbalance:
> Installed: 1.5.0-3ubuntu1
> Candidate: 1.5.0-3ubuntu1
> Version table:
> *** 1.5.0-3ubuntu1 500
> 500 http://
> 100 /var/lib/
>
> $ apt rdepends irqbalance
> irqbalance
> Reverse Depends:
> Recommends: ubuntu-standard
> gce-compute-
>
> Issue/Bug Description:
>
> as per konkor/cpufreq#48 and
> http://
>
> irqbalance is technically not needed on desktop systems (supposedly it
> is mainly for servers), and may actually reduce performance and power
> savings. It appears to provide benefits only to server environments
> that have relatively-constant loading. If it is truly a server-
> oriented package, then it shouldn't be installed by default on a
> desktop/laptop system and shouldn't be included in desktop OS images.
>
> Steps to reproduce (if you know):
>
> This is potentially an issue with all default installs.
>
> Expected behavior:
>
> n/a
>
> Other Notes:
>
> I can safely remove it via "sudo apt purge irqbalance" without any
> apparent adverse side-effects. If someone is running a situation where
> they need it, then they always have the option of installing it from
> the repositories.
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https:/
>
>