Unable send books to device via tunes /iBooks

Bug #1243670 reported by Graham Douglas on 2013-10-23
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Bug Description

Using Mavericks the once simple process is no longer possible, please fix

Changing the component for this bug.

 assignee griker
 tag apple-driver
 status triaged

Changed in calibre:
assignee: nobody → GRiker (griker)
status: New → Triaged

OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) includes major changes to the way that books are managed. At this time I do not have any idea if or when Mavericks support will be possible.

If there is an update, I will announce it in the iOS reader applications plugin http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215624

In the meantime, consider trying Marvin as an alternative to iBooks.

Changed in calibre:
status: Triaged → Confirmed

Gee Riker
If I wanted to use another app I wonder why I would not go to a PC, I like iBooks!
I'll just delete the plug in and look for a work around.
You are doing a great piece of SW in Calibre a disservice by delaying a fix.

Very disappointing .....

Kovid I love YOUR work!!

Cheers
Graham
+61(0)450 319 111

> On 23 Oct 2013, at 23:28, GRiker <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) includes major changes to the way that books are
> managed. At this time I do not have any idea if or when Mavericks
> support will be possible.
>
> If there is an update, I will announce it in the iOS reader applications
> plugin http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215624
>
> In the meantime, consider trying Marvin as an alternative to iBooks.
>
> ** Changed in: calibre
> Status: Triaged => Confirmed
>
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> Title:
> Unable send books to device via tunes /iBooks
>
> Status in calibre: e-book management:
> Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> Using Mavericks the once simple process is no longer possible, please
> fix
>
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Graeme (graeme-x) wrote :

I use Calibre as my main eBook storage tool, but only read on iBooks on iPhone/iPad. I think I installed Calibre initially as a means to convert books, but realized it had much better organization and storage facilities than iTunes provided, so I use it as the default eBook library, with iTunes essentially just acting like a slave that punts books to the iOS devices. I can work around this in the short term, but a solution would be very much appreciated...

Thanks,
Graeme.

Graeme, I understand your frustration. I too am an iBooks user, and I'm annoyed that Apple has built their garden wall even higher with the release of Mavericks. I spent several months implementing iTunes support for calibre, and now with Mavericks, all that work is obsolete.

In a nutshell, the problem is that iTunes offers an OSA (application automation) interface which made it possible for calibre to communicate with iTunes through AppleTalk. The new iBooks app for OS X, which has taken over book management under Mavericks, does not offer an OSA interface. So there's no simple solution to replace the functionality.

The available alternatives at this point:
- Revert to OS X 10.8
- Use calibre's content server and iOS's 'Open in' functionality
- Switch to Marvin (ePub) and GoodReader (PDF), both supported by the iOS reader applications plugin.

I am looking for ways to implement a new approach, but as I said earlier, I have no idea if or when that might happen.

It's also possible that another calibre developer may decide to tackle this.

Graham Douglas (gjdouglas) wrote :

Is that you GRiker??
Graeme, thanks for replying.
Your note could have been written by me, it's precisely how I came to Calibre.
Managing almost 10k books was simple until mavericks came along.
I've deleted, intentionally, the 1k or so in my reading list in iBooks just trying to get it synch & work the way it once did.
It looks like I'll go back to Bluefire for the work around in the meantime.
Very disappointed at the backward step!!

Cheers
Graham
+61(0)450 319 111

> On 25 Oct 2013, at 1:20, Graeme <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> I use Calibre as my main eBook storage tool, but only read on iBooks on
> iPhone/iPad. I think I installed Calibre initially as a means to
> convert books, but realized it had much better organization and storage
> facilities than iTunes provided, so I use it as the default eBook
> library, with iTunes essentially just acting like a slave that punts
> books to the iOS devices. I can work around this in the short term, but
> a solution would be very much appreciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Graeme.
>
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> Title:
> Unable send books to device via tunes /iBooks
>
> Status in calibre: e-book management:
> Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> Using Mavericks the once simple process is no longer possible, please
> fix
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
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Graham Douglas (gjdouglas) wrote :

Thanks G
I'll get over it, Apple has pissed me off but i guess you have more reason to feel that way than I do.
Good luck in your endeavours.

Cheers
Graham
+61(0)450 319 111

> On 25 Oct 2013, at 2:17, GRiker <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> Graeme, I understand your frustration. I too am an iBooks user, and I'm
> annoyed that Apple has built their garden wall even higher with the
> release of Mavericks. I spent several months implementing iTunes support
> for calibre, and now with Mavericks, all that work is obsolete.
>
> In a nutshell, the problem is that iTunes offers an OSA (application
> automation) interface which made it possible for calibre to communicate
> with iTunes through AppleTalk. The new iBooks app for OS X, which has
> taken over book management under Mavericks, does not offer an OSA
> interface. So there's no simple solution to replace the functionality.
>
> The available alternatives at this point:
> - Revert to OS X 10.8
> - Use calibre's content server and iOS's 'Open in' functionality
> - Switch to Marvin (ePub) and GoodReader (PDF), both supported by the iOS reader applications plugin.
>
> I am looking for ways to implement a new approach, but as I said
> earlier, I have no idea if or when that might happen.
>
> It's also possible that another calibre developer may decide to tackle
> this.
>
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> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
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>
> Title:
> Unable send books to device via tunes /iBooks
>
> Status in calibre: e-book management:
> Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> Using Mavericks the once simple process is no longer possible, please
> fix
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
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Graham Douglas (gjdouglas) wrote :

I've just looked st the free version of Marvin, nice GUI, thnx for the tip Graeme.
PS it should be spelt with an "h" :)

Cheers
Graham
+61(0)450 319 111

> On 25 Oct 2013, at 2:17, GRiker <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> Graeme, I understand your frustration. I too am an iBooks user, and I'm
> annoyed that Apple has built their garden wall even higher with the
> release of Mavericks. I spent several months implementing iTunes support
> for calibre, and now with Mavericks, all that work is obsolete.
>
> In a nutshell, the problem is that iTunes offers an OSA (application
> automation) interface which made it possible for calibre to communicate
> with iTunes through AppleTalk. The new iBooks app for OS X, which has
> taken over book management under Mavericks, does not offer an OSA
> interface. So there's no simple solution to replace the functionality.
>
> The available alternatives at this point:
> - Revert to OS X 10.8
> - Use calibre's content server and iOS's 'Open in' functionality
> - Switch to Marvin (ePub) and GoodReader (PDF), both supported by the iOS reader applications plugin.
>
> I am looking for ways to implement a new approach, but as I said
> earlier, I have no idea if or when that might happen.
>
> It's also possible that another calibre developer may decide to tackle
> this.
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
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>
> Title:
> Unable send books to device via tunes /iBooks
>
> Status in calibre: e-book management:
> Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> Using Mavericks the once simple process is no longer possible, please
> fix
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
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Graham Douglas (gjdouglas) wrote :

I now understand why/how you recommend Marvin, thanks Greg.

Cheers,

Graham Douglas
m: 0450 319 111

Sent from my iPad

On 25 Oct 2013, at 2:17, GRiker <email address hidden> wrote:

Graeme, I understand your frustration. I too am an iBooks user, and I'm
annoyed that Apple has built their garden wall even higher with the
release of Mavericks. I spent several months implementing iTunes support
for calibre, and now with Mavericks, all that work is obsolete.

In a nutshell, the problem is that iTunes offers an OSA (application
automation) interface which made it possible for calibre to communicate
with iTunes through AppleTalk. The new iBooks app for OS X, which has
taken over book management under Mavericks, does not offer an OSA
interface. So there's no simple solution to replace the functionality.

The available alternatives at this point:
- Revert to OS X 10.8
- Use calibre's content server and iOS's 'Open in' functionality
- Switch to Marvin (ePub) and GoodReader (PDF), both supported by the iOS reader applications plugin.

I am looking for ways to implement a new approach, but as I said
earlier, I have no idea if or when that might happen.

It's also possible that another calibre developer may decide to tackle
this.

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Title:
 Unable send books to device via tunes /iBooks

Status in calibre: e-book management:
 Confirmed

Bug description:
 Using Mavericks the once simple process is no longer possible, please
 fix

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Graham Douglas (gjdouglas) wrote :

Hi Greg
Another frustration, I managed to get a few books from Calibre to Marvin.
Now the device is just not connecting, it's not listed in ignored devices.
Any ideas?

Cheers,

Graham Douglas
m: 0450 319 111

Sent from my iPad

On 25 Oct 2013, at 2:17, GRiker <email address hidden> wrote:

Graeme, I understand your frustration. I too am an iBooks user, and I'm
annoyed that Apple has built their garden wall even higher with the
release of Mavericks. I spent several months implementing iTunes support
for calibre, and now with Mavericks, all that work is obsolete.

In a nutshell, the problem is that iTunes offers an OSA (application
automation) interface which made it possible for calibre to communicate
with iTunes through AppleTalk. The new iBooks app for OS X, which has
taken over book management under Mavericks, does not offer an OSA
interface. So there's no simple solution to replace the functionality.

The available alternatives at this point:
- Revert to OS X 10.8
- Use calibre's content server and iOS's 'Open in' functionality
- Switch to Marvin (ePub) and GoodReader (PDF), both supported by the iOS reader applications plugin.

I am looking for ways to implement a new approach, but as I said
earlier, I have no idea if or when that might happen.

It's also possible that another calibre developer may decide to tackle
this.

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Title:
 Unable send books to device via tunes /iBooks

Status in calibre: e-book management:
 Confirmed

Bug description:
 Using Mavericks the once simple process is no longer possible, please
 fix

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Graham,
If you're having problems with calibre + Marvin, please refer to this forum posting covering the iOS reader applications plugin http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215624

If you're still having problems, create an issue at the plugin's issue tracker https://github.com/GRiker/calibre-ios-reader-applications/issues?state=open
Review issue #1 for how to create an issue with the needed information.

Graham Douglas (gjdouglas) wrote :

Thanks Greg all fixed.

Cheers,

Graham Douglas
m: 0450 319 111

Sent from my iPad

On 25 Oct 2013, at 9:26, GRiker <email address hidden> wrote:

Graham,
If you're having problems with calibre + Marvin, please refer to this forum posting covering the iOS reader applications plugin http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215624

If you're still having problems, create an issue at the plugin's issue tracker https://github.com/GRiker/calibre-ios-reader-applications/issues?state=open
Review issue #1 for how to create an issue with the needed information.

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Title:
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Status in calibre: e-book management:
 Confirmed

Bug description:
 Using Mavericks the once simple process is no longer possible, please
 fix

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Jim Eubanks (jimrph62) wrote :

I'd not heard of Marvin until reading this thread. However, since Apple has made their software less functional with Calibre, I tried Marvin, liked it, and bought it. It works well for transferring one book. I've yet to figure out how to get my iPhone to show as connected in order to use the Marvin XD plug-in though. I hope to use XD to transfer more than one book at a time. I love Calibre, and advise any OS X Mavericks / iOS user to try Marvin rather than iBooks.

Graham Douglas (gjdouglas) wrote :

Let me know if u need help, I had the same problem.

Cheers
Graham
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> On 5 Nov 2013, at 9:49, Jim Eubanks <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> I'd not heard of Marvin until reading this thread. However, since Apple
> has made their software less functional with Calibre, I tried Marvin,
> liked it, and bought it. It works well for transferring one book. I've
> yet to figure out how to get my iPhone to show as connected in order to
> use the Marvin XD plug-in though. I hope to use XD to transfer more
> than one book at a time. I love Calibre, and advise any OS X Mavericks /
> iOS user to try Marvin rather than iBooks.
>
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> Title:
> Unable send books to device via tunes /iBooks
>
> Status in calibre: e-book management:
> Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> Using Mavericks the once simple process is no longer possible, please
> fix
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
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