[feisty,alternate-cd x86] kernel, not found

[Dennis Schmitz]

It is not possible for me to install the feisty alternate-cd. [20070116.2]
I have to boot with the irqpoll option, without it I got a message before the installer starts (cdrom confused...)

The problem is that the setup doesn't seen find any modules...
On tty4 I get the following message:
date: kernel, not found
date: kernel, not found
date: kernel, not found
date: kernel, not found

My config:
asus p5w dh deluxe
core 2 duo e6600
2GB Ram Dualchannel
DVD-RW on Intel-Ich7-Controller.
I've checked it with the jmicron-controller, too, but got the same error.

I've tried many Bios and boot options but had no luck.
BIOS:
Enable/Disable AHCI >> with AHCI, no CD found
Enable/Disable Enhanced Mode on Intel ICH7 >> no difference
Enable ACPI2 >> no difference
With DVD-RW on jmicron-port:
Enable/Disable AHCI >> with AHCI, no CD found

Bootoptions:
irqpoll all-generic-ide >> kernel, not found
irqpoll >> kernel, not found
acpi=off >> no difference
noapic >> crash

The herd2-cd didn't work for me, too and stopped with exactly the same error.

[x (xk2c-deactivatedaccount)]

same here: kernel, not found on tty4

first it is trying to load framebuffer, then there is a short hardware discover (s.th. like loading floppy or similar) and then it hangs.

[Dennis Schmitz (deezid)]

@Thilo:
What is your config?
Dual Core? DDR2? Which MB? etc...

regards Dennis

[Stephen Drake (spd106)]

Are you sure the install has completely stopped?

If you continue to get the message, then it may just be the slow hardware detection mentioned in the release announcement. On one of my virtual installs it seemed to take forever, but it went through the install despite about a million of those "kernel: not found." messages. I have a 12MB syslog full of them.

Try holding on for 5-10 mins or so and see if you get any other messages on tty4.

[Julien Gascard (amodef)]

Same problem for me with an Intel Pentium M t2050 (dual core), 512Mo DDR2, motherboard based on a VIA VN800 chipset.

It stops during the main installation because it can't find any kernel that matched my configuration.

It's impossible to continue the installation (the error message comes ever and ever).

By the way, I've been unable to install Edgy on this notebook, by any method (upgrade from Edgy : crash on reboot, Desktop CD installation : unable to launch live CD).

Dapper and Edgy were working fine, expect for the video card (no drivers available).

[Julien Gascard (amodef)]

"By the way, I've been unable to install Edgy on this notebook,"

Sorry, I mean "Feisty", not "Edgy".

[x (xk2c-deactivatedaccount)]

@Dennis

# uname --all
Linux ubuntu2 2.6.15-27-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 18:22:01 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux

# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 6
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+

DDR RAM, 1gig

mobo is a K7VT4A PRO
http://www.asrock.com/product/K7VT4A%20PRO.htm

$ lspci
.
.
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)

hdd is a sata Samsung drive

HTH, if further info needed, just ping me

This system ever worked very well, with live and instalation CDs (ubuntu and debian)

[x (xk2c-deactivatedaccount)]

@Stephen
> Try holding on for 5-10 mins or so and see if you get any other messages on tty4.

When ever a install like this would happen every user pull the cd out of the drive.
This behavior is uncommon and as the screen "hangs" there is no indication it ever would go further after _that_ long period of time.

To answer the question:
No i haven´t waited so long. The situation seemd quite clear to me.
tty1 hangs, tty4 tells there is the kernel missing.

under this circustances every user would asume the cd is broken and will not work
and imho this realy should be fixed before release

[Dennis Schmitz (deezid)]

These are the two messages I get on tty4:
<date> kernel: not found
<some number> Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found

The second message appears very rarely. Max. 1 time in 2 seconds compared to 100 times in 1 second :D (kernel: not found).

@Stephen Drake:
I've followed your suggestion. The network autoconfiguration appears after 10 minutes. I aborted the installation and shut the pc down 15 minutes later because the autoconfiguration wasn't still ready.
It's just not ok if an installer needs such a long time even on a core duo PC ;)

@Thilo Six:
So it doesn't seem to be a dual core problem, thanks for your information

regards Dennis

[Dennis Schmitz (deezid)]

This bug doesn't appear with the AMD64-Version of the livecd. Even Herd2 works here.
So there must be something wrong.

The amd64-alternate cd installs just fine, exept grub, which I had to install manually (only tried the cd from today).

I found the following workaround for the x86 cd.
You need to use the following kernel-parameter:
hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false

The CD works now, but there's another bug with the debian installer.
After installing system packages, the installer complains:
"No installable kernel found",
and on tty:
"base-installer: info: linux-image-generic not usable on 386"
?

regards Dennis

[Emilio Pozuelo Monfort (pochu)]

The bug seems to belong to the debian-installer (the installer of the alternate CD). So I've changed the package.

If it isn't affecting it, change it ;)

[Timo Aaltonen (tjaalton)]

from bug #76341:

-try booting with "hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false" on the kernel commandline and see if that helps.

[Dennis Schmitz (deezid)]

I already did that ;)

"I found the following workaround for the x86 cd.
You need to use the following kernel-parameter:
hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false

The CD works now, but there's another bug with the debian installer.
After installing system packages, the installer complains:
"No installable kernel found",
and on tty:
"base-installer: info: linux-image-generic not usable on 386"
?"

In german ubuntuusers.de forum I heard that the bug was fixed in "20070118".
I'll test that tomorrow.

regards Dennis