drag & drop delete ntfs files

[mimo mimoccc]

Binary package hint: nautilus

Unsure if it is a new Nautilus wipe method, but if you try to drag&drop files from ntfs disk to Totem playlist,
you will never see that files again.
I try to search that files, but no success. (on a TB disks very bad idea but what can i do)
I try ntfs progs to unerase, no success.
Today i will try to use some windows program to recover, but unsure about result.
Theres no free unerase software with GUI in linux?
Have no time to spend for it, but, i didnt find any, a may be cause linux was not supporting ntfs write operations before, or may be this bug was not unhidden.
Realy first time that i can say "linux disappoint me".
May be cause before i use kde, xfce and windows and everywhere were drag&drop safe method to add something somewhere.
Were surprised and disappointed with feeling like a small children, after 11 years in IT.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, if this is public, be careful with basic safe operations in Gnome applications, if you are like me, very sensitive about your data. especially with drag&drop and so on.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
Package: nautilus 1:2.30.1-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-22.33-generic-pae 2.6.32.11+drm33.2
Uname: Linux 2.6.32-22-generic-pae i686
Architecture: i386
Date: Mon May 17 09:42:22 2010
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release i386 (20100429)
ProcEnviron:
 PATH=(custom, no user)
 LANG=sk_SK.utf8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: nautilus

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

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 * Is this reproducible?
 * If so, what specific steps should we take to recreate this bug?

 This will help us to find and resolve the problem.

[mimo mimoccc (mimoccc)]

Yes.
Bug reproduction:
-1- Add NTFS disk to your machine, plug an usb ntfs partitioned usb disk or make new NTFS partition on your disk and copy files there, that you dont care to lose.
-2- Open Totem media player and show playlist window
-3- Open Nautilus with disk data from that NTFS partition/disc
-4- Drag some file/s with mouse and drop them to Totem player playlist
-5- Files in heaven...

Any help to find solution to get that files back will make me very happy, there were files from my old trips arround the world, i will be very happy to get them back. I was into that, almost every operation in linux is safe, thats also reason why i dont care about draging something somewhere like playlist. Never have this kinda experience to lost files with such as read only operation like drag&drop to playlist. I had software when i was younger to recover ntfs, but for windows, and cant find easy solution for linux. My last try will be reinstalation to windows 7 if there will be not another solution to get them back, and next reinstalation to linux, but this step will be same hard for me as looking for some files with just a parts of name on terabyte disks.

Well sorry then if my post looks little bit angry, but realy also in DOS operating system i never had such as trouble.
May be i have to switch back to KDE, there i had never problem like this.
I just like Ubuntu distribution, and theres native Gnome.
Well post is for to make attention for another users, and i didnt find this problem on internet and also to report bug to make playlist in Totem as must be, and Nautilus to not delete files when they are not in right place.
In my opinion this bug is happen in colision between Nautilus and Totem, where Nautilus means that files need to be moved in another disk or space and then delete them withouth check if files are realy moved/copied to another place.
Or he move them somewhere i dont know where. I dont have time to check that and I am new in Gnome.
Thats realy wrong idea to program something like this. I am programmer and delete or remove can be used only if there is no posibility to make data hidden or disabled and delete it only if program is realy sure that they are realy obsolete or there is no more space on disk.
This understand also Micro$oft. in all software.
Example is FAT system with two FAT tables and possible recovery.

[Gary M (garym)]

Cannot reproduce on Maverick (Ubuntu 10.10, Totem 2.32.0, Nautilus 2.32.0).

@mimo, is this still occurring for you?

[mimo mimoccc (mimoccc)]

I didnt test it yet, i am using it carefully to dont lose files, but i will
try it, i love ubuntu, is amazing work
Will let u know soon.

Thanx for listening my trouble

2010/10/4 Gary M <email address hidden>

> Cannot reproduce on Maverick (Ubuntu 10.10, Totem 2.32.0, Nautilus
> 2.32.0).
>
> @mimo, is this still occurring for you?
>
> ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
> Status: New => Incomplete
>
> --
> drag & drop delete ntfs files
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/581602
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “nautilus” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: nautilus
>
> Unsure if it is a new Nautilus wipe method, but if you try to drag&drop
> files from ntfs disk to Totem playlist,
> you will never see that files again.
> I try to search that files, but no success. (on a TB disks very bad idea
> but what can i do)
> I try ntfs progs to unerase, no success.
> Today i will try to use some windows program to recover, but unsure about
> result.
> Theres no free unerase software with GUI in linux?
> Have no time to spend for it, but, i didnt find any, a may be cause linux
> was not supporting ntfs write operations before, or may be this bug was not
> unhidden.
> Realy first time that i can say "linux disappoint me".
> May be cause before i use kde, xfce and windows and everywhere were
> drag&drop safe method to add something somewhere.
> Were surprised and disappointed with feeling like a small children, after
> 11 years in IT.
>
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> So, if this is public, be careful with basic safe operations in Gnome
> applications, if you are like me, very sensitive about your data. especially
> with drag&drop and so on.
>
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> ProblemType: Bug
> DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
> Package: nautilus 1:2.30.1-0ubuntu1
> ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-22.33-generic-pae 2.6.32.11+drm33.2
> Uname: Linux 2.6.32-22-generic-pae i686
> Architecture: i386
> Date: Mon May 17 09:42:22 2010
> InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release i386 (20100429)
> ProcEnviron:
> PATH=(custom, no user)
> LANG=sk_SK.utf8
> SHELL=/bin/bash
> SourcePackage: nautilus
>
> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
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