password is too complex for younger people

Bug #547469 reported by Peter Sereinigg
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Melissa Draper

Bug Description

please add a possibility to define, how a password should look like. For younger people this complex password, you force here, is to difficult for use!

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Chris Walsh (fitzwalsh) wrote :

Yes - we need to have flexibility to define our own password needs. Also - Mahara's default password requirements are different than Moodle's, so even with SSO working, Mahara asks the user to create a unique/longer password on first login. This is very awkward.

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Nigel-catalyst (nigel-catalyst) wrote :

Do you happen to know Moodle's requirement, off the top of your head?

Not sure of the easiest way to fix this, as the password validation is a great big regex provided by an API method, and in theory admins might want to choose whether users had to use weaker/stronger passwords. I'm sure it's not that much work though.

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Nigel-catalyst (nigel-catalyst) wrote :

This is worth fixing, I'd be tempted to reduce it to 5 characters, 0 numbers for now.

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François Marier (fmarier) wrote :

I agree with Nigel and others on this. Let's stop pretending that password policies make people use good passwords.

Changed in mahara:
milestone: none → 1.5.0
tags: added: password
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Melissa Draper (melissa) wrote :

http://xkcd.com/936/ :D

In all seriousness, Mahara could help change/improve habits by suggesting what Randall describes. I propose that we don't merely reduce the minimum length and drop numbers requirements. I suggest that when we change the policy, we also offer alternative password guidelines in text alongside the password change fields.

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François Marier (fmarier) wrote :

I like these suggestions, but let's create a different bug for them.

This one is about removing the pointless restrictions.

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Melissa Draper (melissa) wrote :

http://xkcd.com/936/ :D

In all seriousness, Mahara could help change/improve habits by suggesting what Randall describes. I propose that we don't merely reduce the minimum length and drop numbers requirements. I suggest that when we change the policy, we also offer alternative password guidelines in text alongside the password change fields.

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Melissa Draper (melissa) wrote :
Changed in mahara:
status: Confirmed → In Progress
assignee: nobody → Melissa Draper (melissa)
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Mahara Bot (dev-mahara) wrote : A change has been merged

Reviewed: https://reviews.mahara.org/655
Committed: http://gitorious.org/mahara/mahara/commit/466c7763c4817b2b51fe3356aee09b06f8035848
Submitter: Francois Marier (<email address hidden>)
Branch: master

commit 466c7763c4817b2b51fe3356aee09b06f8035848
Author: Melissa Draper <email address hidden>
Date: Thu Sep 8 17:10:16 2011 +1200

    Change password restrictions for young users (bug #547469)

    As demonstrated by http://xkcd.com/936/ the current password policy encourages
    passwords with low entropy. Young users especially struggle with the password
    policy. This patch drops the mandatory number & 2 letters rule.

    Change-Id: Ifb9f4a24f53ab86ddf52f69ca3e07611c41bec64
    Signed-off-by: Melissa Draper <email address hidden>

Changed in mahara:
status: In Progress → Fix Committed
tags: added: passwords
removed: mahara-eduforge-feature-request password
description: updated
tags: added: newfeature
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Melissa Draper (melissa) wrote :

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Melissa Draper (melissa) wrote :

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Changed in mahara:
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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