Tasks that have subtasks dissapear at Work View

[Frank Abel]

When I add subtasks to a task and go to the Work View, the parent task disappear, I mean, just the subtasks are showed. When I leave then the Work View, the parent task appear with the subtask as must be.

working on 0.2.3 and karmic.

Cheers
Frank Abel

[Luca Invernizzi (invernizzi)]

That's the intended behavior.
Subtasks are supposed to be tasks that are part of a more general task. In order to be allowed to complete the more general task, the subtask must be done first.

Example:
 - become a sniper
 -- take a sniper video-lessons course
 --- buy a sniper rifle
 --- buy a sniper bullet
 --make up a cool name (hawk?)

[Frank Abel (frankabel)]

Thank for your quick reply, but...

What is the relation of what you said with this bug report? What I'm reporting is the fact that in Work View the interface don't show parent-subtask items in the same way that outside Work View does.

Outside the Work view things are like:

-- take a sniper video-lessons course
 --- buy a sniper rifle
 --- buy a sniper bullet

but inse de Work View things are like:

-- buy a sniper rifle
-- buy a sniper bulle

No parent task at all.

Do you said that that is an intended behavior?

Thanks again
Frank Abel

[Bryce Harrington (bryce)]

I believe that's how the workview is designed to work.
The subtasks are considered "pre-requisites" to the parent task, so the
parent task is not "workable" until those are done. Once they're done,
the parent task shows back up.

On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 12:37:28AM -0000, Frank Abel wrote:
> Public bug reported:
>
> When I add subtasks to a task and go to the Work View, the parent task
> disappear, I mean, just the subtasks are showed. When I leave then the
> Work View, the parent task appear with the subtask as must be.
>
> working on 0.2.3 and karmic.
>
> Cheers
> Frank Abel
>
> ** Affects: gtg
> Importance: Undecided
> Status: New
>
> --
> Tasks that have subtasks dissapear at Work View
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/531074
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>
> Status in Getting Things GNOME!: New
>
> Bug description:
> When I add subtasks to a task and go to the Work View, the parent task disappear, I mean, just the subtasks are showed. When I leave then the Work View, the parent task appear with the subtask as must be.
>
> working on 0.2.3 and karmic.
>
> Cheers
> Frank Abel
>

[Luca Invernizzi (invernizzi)]

Bryce is right.
I forgot to finish the example :-)

The work view for the sniper tasks would be:
 - buy a sniper rifle
 - buy a sniper bullet
 - make up a cool name (hawk?)

these are the only things you can do right now to achieve your sniper career. You cannot take the video lesson course without having a rifle, and you cannot be a sniper until you finished the course.

Therefore, *right now* your concerns are only the three listed above.

[Alexandre COLLIGNON (alexandre-collignon)]

Some of the exemple scared me ! After "invade France" we have "become a sniper" ! Is GTG a new army ? I suggest that we rename GTG to GTC Gnome Time Conqueror !.

Useless message indeed ! Hope it make you smile !

[Lionel Dricot (ploum-deactivatedaccount)]

Frank > If you were surprised by that behaviour (to the point of reporting a bug about it), what do think workview was ? What were you expecting ?

[Frank Abel (frankabel)]

I will try to explain why was completely unexpected such behaviour.

The fact that subtasks are pre-requisites to the parent tasks, or even more, that parent tasks can't be started until all its subtasks get finished don't imply at all from my point of view that parent tasks should not appear in the Work View. In lot of cases (where the subtasks definitions are done contextually, I mean, subtasks descriptions are a kind of specifications or continuations of the parent task description) the lack of the parent task in the Work View can be bad for the understanding what a subtask is.

Beside of that, I don't agree with "the parent task is not "workable" until subtask are done" idea. In case where a parent task is just subtasks, each time we finish a subtask we are in fact working/advancing in the parent task, so why don't show the parent task on the Work View? In future, when % of termination is added (I expect such addition soon) would be nice see that the % of termination of parent tasks in the Work View too.

I don't will change the bug state again ;)

[Lionel Dricot (ploum-deactivatedaccount)]

Frank > from what I understand from your description, you simply don't want to use the workview. It's perfectly fine, a lot of people don't use this feature.

By definition, workview *is* the list of tasks without any subtask. This is, I believe, well explained in the first task "Using the workview". If the wording is not clear, we will gladly accept patch there :-)

Given your way of using GTG, I will recommend you to no use the workview at all. (if I remember fine, tasks with unactive tags will also be hidden from the main view in the future). I hope that you can accomodate your way to organize yourself with GTG and wish you a lot of productivity ;-)

[Frank Abel (frankabel)]

Well, I must said that if the GTG Work View is something like "list of tasks without any subtask" I can't use it. Isn't good for peoples like me(peoples that have subtasks definitions highly tied to its parent task definition and due to can't afford a parent task hide) that don't exist a view to show just tasks with startdate < currentdate < deadline, that is from my point of view the right definition of Work View.

Any way I will continue using GTG, thanks for all people that in some way made it possible.

[Luca Invernizzi (invernizzi)]

Frank, I think your problem will be solved in GTG 0.4. We are planning to add a search feature and the possibility of saving the searches (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/410822), so that you can use them like "smart tags". You could just save your "startdate < currentdate < deadline" search to get the behaviour you want.

[Frank Abel (frankabel)]

Sound good, lets hope that 0.4 come soon ;)