Dependency chain forces installation of OpenOffice

[Shane Lazar]

Binary package hint: language-support-writing-en

Hi,

I am running Xubuntu Karmic but I have checked the Lucid packages and found the same problem.

The problem is with the language support package here : http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/language-support-writing-en It depends on packages like http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/openoffice.org-hyphenation and http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us which in turn pulls in the rest of OpenOffice.

This results in OpenOffice being downloaded and installed by Ubiquity... The total size of downloads is ~130MB! This is very unfortunate for people with limited bandwidth.

This problem existed in 8.04 LTS, and I reported the bug (read pestered the poor devs on launchpad, IRC and forums :) ) and a fix was released for 8.04.1. It is really unfortunate to see this regression rear it's ugly head again.

Please fix this problem, as it is usually people with meagre resources that have to use Xubuntu on their older machines and more often than not, they do not have unlimited megabit connections.

Thank you for your work.

[edit] I have found the old bug submission for 8.04 LTS

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/220817

[kendall (kendalltweaver)]

I'm in complete agreement here. Running a full install with the language packs results in a lot of unnecessary packages being pulled in. As far as I've observed, it's not just OpenOffice, but OpenJDK as well. This may be a non-issue for the main distro, but when you're dealing with limited space and/or limited bandwidth this becomes a particularly serious issue very quickly. Please look into this as soon as time allows. Thanks.

[kendall (kendalltweaver)]

Taking a look at the dependencies in some of the other language-support-writing-** packages, it's possible that the issue will show up in other languages as well.

[Charlie Kravetz (cjkgeek)]

Thanks for reporting this bug and any supporting documentation. Since this bug has enough information provided for a developer to begin work, I'm going to mark it as confirmed and let them handle it from here. Thanks for taking the time to make Ubuntu better!

I would also like to see this not removing myspell-en-us to replace it with several other languages. It does install hunspell-en-us, myspell-en-au, myspell-en-gb, myspell-en-za. Has hunspell replaced myspell for U.S. english?

[Shane Lazar (drsjlazar)]

Is there any progress in fixing this bug?... seeing that the Beta 1 is being released tomorrow?

[Charlie Kravetz (cjkgeek)]

I don't know exactly when this was fixed, but xubuntu no longer is pulling the OO.o stack when installing. I am marking it fix-released based on iso images tested for the beta1 release dated 2010-03-17 and 2010-03-18.

[kendall (kendalltweaver)]

I just tested and can verify that it's working correctly now. Thanks.

-Kendall Weaver

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Charlie Kravetz <email address hidden>wrote:

> I don't know exactly when this was fixed, but xubuntu no longer is
> pulling the OO.o stack when installing. I am marking it fix-released
> based on iso images tested for the beta1 release dated 2010-03-17 and
> 2010-03-18.
>
> ** Changed in: language-support-writing-en (Ubuntu)
> Status: Triaged => Fix Released
>
> --
> Dependency chain forces installation of OpenOffice
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/502748
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “language-support-writing-en” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: language-support-writing-en
>
> Hi,
>
> I am running Xubuntu Karmic but I have checked the Lucid packages and found
> the same problem.
>
> The problem is with the language support package here :
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/language-support-writing-en It depends
> on packages like
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/openoffice.org-hyphenation and
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us which in
> turn pulls in the rest of OpenOffice.
>
> This results in OpenOffice being downloaded and installed by Ubiquity...
> The total size of downloads is ~130MB! This is very unfortunate for people
> with limited bandwidth.
>
> This problem existed in 8.04 LTS, and I reported the bug (read pestered the
> poor devs on launchpad, IRC and forums :) ) and a fix was released for
> 8.04.1. It is really unfortunate to see this regression rear it's ugly head
> again.
>
> Please fix this problem, as it is usually people with meagre resources that
> have to use Xubuntu on their older machines and more often than not, they do
> not have unlimited megabit connections.
>
> Thank you for your work.
>
>
>
> [edit] I have found the old bug submission for 8.04 LTS
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/220817
>
> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
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> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-support-writing-en/+bug/502748/+subscribe
>

[Shane Lazar (drsjlazar)]

Thanks for your work. Much appreciated.