linux 2.6.28 doesn't boot for recent processors with XSAVE

[emmanuel]

Binary package hint: linux-image-2.6.28-9-generic

Hi

I try the jaunty live cd 64 and 32 nits version, but, my computer don't boot, it hang after grub, at starting up ..

I try to upgrade a fresh intrepid install, and same thing, no boot, hang at starting up ..

I just can boot on the 2.6.27.11 kernel that remain from the intrepid install.

 My motherboard is an asus p5kpl-am and my processor an intel quad Q9400

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: amd64
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.04
MachineType: System manufacturer System Product Name
Package: linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic 2.6.27-11.27
ProcCmdLine: root=UUID=16967914-8627-43db-b63e-0270a8f492cb ro quiet splash
ProcEnviron:
 PATH=(custom, user)
 LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.27-11.27-generic
SourcePackage: linux
UnreportableReason: Ceci n'est pas un authentique paquet Ubuntu

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

even the alternate cd don't boot, after I choose install ubuntu, nothing, just blinking

[Edward Faulkner (ef)]

I am having the same problem, although I'm on different hardware and I'm not sure if it's the same bug.

I upgraded to Jaunty from Ibex. It ran ok for several weeks, but eventually a kernel update made it hang during boot. If I boot in rescue mode I can see a kernel panic in the init process context.

Both 2.6.28-9 and 2.6.28-8 are showing this problem, for now I've downgraded to my last known good version (linux-image-2.6.28-8-generic 2.6.28-8.26).

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

The problem is still here with 2.6.28-10.

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

I have compiled kernel from git from kernel.org 2.6.29-rc8 and it boot and run well.
I also compile the ubuntu kernel from git, 2.6.28-7 and it don't boot.

[Edward Faulkner (ef)]

Yup, still having the problem under 2.6.28-10.

Attaching a photo of the kernel panic I get under this kernel.

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

It seem it's a kernel bug and not due to ubuntu, because I compile the 2.6.28.8 and 2.6.28.7 from kernel.org with the same result, no boot.
So I keep 2.6.29-rc8.

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

same thing with the new kernel 2.6.28-11 it seems jaunty is not for me, at least with is kernel, oh and I have compiled 2.6.28-5 from kernel.org and still no boot, I will just for testing compile also the other 2.6.28 series, but I suspect it's not a kernel for my hardware, lucky the 2.6.29 boot, so I can use jaunty, but it's frustating to be unable to install a fresh version of jaunty and be obliged to upgrade from intrepid.

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

I have the strange feeling of talking to myself in this bugreport, edward, does the new kernel work for you?

[Edward Faulkner (ef)]

I gave up on Jaunty for now. I'm running Arch's stock 2.6.28 kernel with no problems.

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

Ok, thanks, I will give a try to arch.

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

and ...............
booting the kernel ..............
blinking cursor.
It confirmes what I think, I'm the only one in the world trying to boot the 2.6.28 kernel serie with this hardware, impossible to know what happen because theres nothing just blinking cursor, how frustrating, what have they done with 2.6.28 ??
Is there a dev somewhere here ? can somebody explain ?

[Giovanni Condello (nanomad)]

To help devs find out whats wrong, you should try running Arch Linux stock 2.6.28 kernel (as edward said it worked for him) on ubuntu. Just download the kernel26-2.6.28.7-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz and copy the relevant files (modules & kernel) to the right location. You will have to rebuild the initrd and update grub.

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

Has I say, but it's not clear I suppose, the arch 2.6.28 kernel don't boot at all. so ..........
And I don"t have the same problem than edward, because for him it start to boot, for me, it don't load-boot, nothing happen instead of a blinking cursor, even if I remove quiet and splash, nothing.

[Giovanni Condello (nanomad)]

Can you please do the following:
1) Try a boot with jaunty's latest 2.6.28 kernel
2) Hard reset the system a couple minutes after lock-up
3) Boot a working kernel (2.6.29 maybe?)
4) Post a .tar.gz of
- /var/log/kern.log.*
- /var/log/dmesg*
- /var/log/syslog*

Maybe there's something useful in there

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

I will do that, ok, but, I have check the logs, and there's no log I have found relative to the 2.6.28 kernel, just the logs about working kernel.

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

Ok, I join the logs, but I read it, and as you can see, there's only reference to the working kernels, no mention of the 2.6.28.
I check all the logs, even the gz ones, and there's nowhere mention of the 2.6.28.

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

I search for boot options, and find earlyprintk, it write some stuff on the screen, but so fast, did somebody know how have it in a file ? or if it go in a file already, what file?

[Giovanni Condello (nanomad)]

Could you please try to boot 2.6.28 with:
pci=noacpi acpi=off noacpi noapic nolapic

Thanks.

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

Nothing, it does the same thing, whatever I put in boot option, the only way to have something is to put earlyprintk=vga,keep.
I attach to pictures, the first, the blinking starting up, the second, the only thing I saw with earlyprintk, because it scroll to fast to have something else, and scroll lock does nothing.

[Giovanni Condello (nanomad)]

Thanks.

Another test:
Boot with nosmp

Googling around i found that it can be a bug related to preemption (but AFAIK you can't disable it at boot, you need to recompile the whole kernel)

[Helmut (heli-tzv)]

I can confirm this bug.

After updating from intrepid I cannot boot the current kernel 2.6.28-11-generic.

 When resetting the PC I get:
 Grub loading stage 1.5
 Boot from (hd0,0) ext3 08dd... (the uuid)
 Starting up ...

 Then it stops.

 Luckily it boots with the older kernel 2.6.27-11-generic, although the grub settings (uuid) are the same. Strange.

 Here some more detailed informations:

 /boot/grub/menu.lst:

 title Ubuntu jaunty (development branch), kernel 2.6.28-11-generic
 uuid 08dd9c63-37c3-4368-82cd-94ea9751d91e
 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic root=/dev/mapper/vg1-root ro
 initrd /initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic
 quiet
 ...
 title Ubuntu jaunty (development branch), kernel 2.6.27-11-generic
 uuid 08dd9c63-37c3-4368-82cd-94ea9751d91e
 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=/dev/mapper/vg1-root ro splash
 initrd /initrd.img-2.6.27-11-generic
 quiet

 The hardware is a Dell 755 with:
 Intel Core2 Duo CPU E8500@3.16GHz

 lspci:
 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express DRAM Controller (rev 02)
 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 02)
 00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express MEI Controller (rev 02)
 00:03.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express PT IDER Controller (rev 02)
 00:03.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Serial KT Controller (rev 02)
 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)
 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 92)
 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801IO (ICH9DO) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801IR/IO/IH (ICH9R/DO/DH) 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02)
 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV610 video device [Radeon HD 2400 PRO]
 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE] (rev 54)

The 2.6.29 kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.29/ installs and boots without a glitch:
uname -a:
Linux delle 2.6.29-020629-generic #020629 SMP Tue Mar 24 11:23:53 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux

[Giovanni Condello (nanomad)]

Could you please try what I posted in #19 and #22 ?

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

nosmp don't work for me.

[Helmut (heli-tzv)]

I bootet with all these parameters together:

   nosmp pci=noacpi acpi=off noacpi noapic nolapic

It makes no difference. The machine hangs at the same point.
Do you think I have to try these parameters alone or some permutations?

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

still nothing new from a dev ?

[David Marsden (dmarsd)]

I have a similar, if not the same, problem.

Also running an Asus motherboard - P5VD2-MX - the Jaunty Beta Live CD and Alternate install cd don't recognise my hard-drive at all so could not install. When running the Live CD, it mounts my external backup drive, but not my hard-drive. Hard-drive doesn't show up in dmesg or lspci outputs.

I tried a live CD of Intrepid without any problems - hard-drive is recognised and mounted.

So, instead of a clean install of Jaunty, I successfully did an upgrade from Intrepid to Jaunty Beta and on reboot got the same blank screen/blinking cursor.

Rebooted and am able to run Jaunty using kernel 2.6.27-7-generic, which was another option in grub menu. Kernel 2.6.28-* just hangs at boot, presumably because it doesn't see my hard-drive.

[Tomas Åberg (tompalaz)]

Hi.
I can't boot the 2.6.28 kernel either.
My kernel panic says: Kernel Panic - can't sync - killing Init! and then everything freezes.
Can jmicron cause this? I've shut the jmicron chipset off in my BIOS. Using the ASUS BZ RAIDthing on the motherboard.
I use the P5W DH motherboard along with a Q9400 processor and a 4870 graphic card

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

no news here, and it seems not so much people in the dev world feel concerned by our problem.

[Helmut (heli-tzv)]

> no news here, and it seems not so much people in the dev world feel concerned by our problem.

Yes, it's somehow disappointing.
We try to give back some feedback to the developers and want to help to make Jaunty better, but nobody seems to care.
But maybe we are simply on the wrong list.

[Rafatolla (martin-cranidge)]

I have a boot problem with the 2.6.28-11 generic of ubuntu 9.04 following update of 8.10. I have a Toshiba satellite A210 with amd64 dual core. On boot I receive a message that the hard disk does not exist but the uuid string is exactly the same as for the 2.6.27 kernel, which boots without problem. If it helps, I could check the exact message that I receive.

[Rafatolla (martin-cranidge)]

In fact the boot is not picking up my usb harddisk from which I run ubuntu. Oddly enough I don't have this problem with 2.6.27-11. If I unpluf and replug the disk, I can then continue the boot to the console.

[Jan de Wal (jan-dewal)]

Asus p5vd2-mx motherboard here, also unable to boot, kernel 2.6.27-14 works without parameters, (did see some irq vendor ?? code fill up my screen) to get 2.6.28 working i had to start with acpi=off nolapic noapic parameters..

Now resulting in auto harware (resolution) detection failure for my nvidia pci-e graphics card.

:[

2.6.29 kernel tryed it, doesnt do it either...

[john doe (john--doe)]

I don't understand why nobody cares about it, this is a critical bug...
Jaunty should even not have been released missing this feature.

Can't install it on an ICH9R array (Gigabyte P35 DS3-R), same errors as the ones reported before.

[shayguitarra (sheamus)]

I am having what seems to be an identical problem.
MSI K9N SLI Platinum motherboard with AMD 64 Dual Core Processor.
Upgraded to Jaunty on Thursday and cannot boot to 2.6.28-11 or 2.6.27-11. I am currently booting into kernel 2.6.24-22.

Normal boot leads to hang at 'starting up...' attempted boot into recovery mode leads to hang at 'PCI (0000.00.00) Starting HTI MSI mapping'.

I originally raised this issue on the ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1135033

[Tomas Åberg (tompalaz)]

I switched motherboard and now it works perfect(ASUS P5B Vista edition). What is more interesting is that I can boot with the old motherboard with another setup (before Asus P5W DH + Q9400 + 4870 and now Core 2 duo 6750 + X1800GT)
I tried switching off the horrible jMicron. It might have worked.

[AmonSacha (amonsacha-deactivatedaccount)]

Having the same issue on my toshiba satellite (older model).
Switch to 2.6.27-11 in grub then it boots.

Logs give no indicator of 2.6.28-11 ever booting, nothing in the logs until older kernel was selected.

[David Marsden (dmarsd)]

Just tried booting with upgraded kernel headers 2.6.28-12, but still no joy.

[rebski (rowdyb)]

This concurs with my experience on my Dell M2010.

I have been trying to boot up from the live CD/DVD of Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu and get the freeze a moment after I select ‘Try Without any changes to your computer’. And yes I also tried putting the CD images on DVD disks.

The error code given is:-
Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP 00000097 00000098 0000bd80

This appears to be a common problem on many Linux distros and has been around for several years now. Google it and see what I mean.

In fact I have found it to be so with all the Alpha, Beta and RC versions of 8.04, 8.10 and 9.04. The only difference being that it was fixed in the final version of 8.04 and 8.10 but not, sadly, 9.04.

The md5sum on the CD/DVD has been checked and is correct. In any event the same disks works fine on my Clevo laptop and Shuttle desktop.

The Clevo Elantech touchpad is still not recognised just as before and neither is the Logitech Bluetooth keyboard and mouse on my Shuttle, though that did work with 8.10 as I recall.

[Bert (richarda-paradise)]

Booting is hanging at the same stage for me as David Marsden

If I boot on the .27 kernel I get a lot of IRQ warnings similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/329766

Started a thread on the Ubuntu forum - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1145427 - where I plan to list my experiments to fix it.

[David Marsden (dmarsd)]

I also get the same IRQ warnings, but I had those with other kernels on Intrepid, Hardy, too:

IRQ_DISABLED set
unexpected IRQ trap at vector 9b
irq 155, desc: c04a0b00, depth: 1, count: 0, unhandled: 0
->handle_irq(): c0177390, handle_bad_irq+0x0/0x2a0
->chip(): c0477180, no_irq_chip+0x0/0x40
->action(): 00000000

[Bert (richarda-paradise)]

For the .27 kernel boots here are some log files

[Jacob Godserv (fun2program8)]

Hello from across the Linux universe. I'm a Gentoo user, and in my quest to solve a 2.6.28 problem I saw this bug report. I thought I'd give you guys what I know so far and the Ubuntu devs can do with it what they want.

XSCALE causes a crash very early in boot on 2.6.28 kernels:
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12520

As far as I know, the way the bug process works is, if the bug reporter can get one of the later 2.6.28 kernels or a kernel with the patch in that bug report, and he confirms it works, then anyone who does not have a recent processor with XSCALE support is not affected by this bug.

[David Marsden (dmarsd)]

Still doesn't boot for me. Am I missing something?

[Jacob Godserv (fun2program8)]

Have you tried Karmic Koala? It should already have the patch.

[andyh (andyheston)]

I had a similar problem that was partially solved by doing a modprobe usb-storage and then exit after it reports a few lines. Boot will restart this worked and I was able to log in. I haven't figured out how to make the real fix but it works for now.

[Bryan Wu (cooloney)]

Hi alls,

Unfortunately it seems this bug is still an issue. Can you guys confirm this issue exists with the most recent Jaunty Jackalope 9.04 release - http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-9.04-desktop . If the issue remains in Jaunty, please test the latest upstream kernel build - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds . Let us know your results. Thanks.

-Bryan

[gabi.y3k (gabi-y3k)]

Hello everybody,

I am also currently experiencing problems with Ubuntu 9.04 on my desktop PC.

My PC configuration is as follows:

Motherboard: Asus P5VD2-MX
CPU: Pentium D 820 2.8 GHz
RAM: 2 x 1GB Kingmax (not dual-channel, MB does not support it)
Video: GeForce 9600GT
HDD: 1 WD 250GB P-ATA (IDE) & 1 Seagate 320GB S-ATA (My Ubuntu OS is installed on WD)
DVD writer: Samsung SH-S182D

Further details can be found in the attachment.

In november 2007 I installed Ubuntu 7.10. Since then, I have been upgrading with every new stable release of Ubuntu. Currently I am running the latest (Ubuntu 9.04), but I am not able to boot from GRUB the new kernel version 2.6.28. It just hangs saying "Loading, please wait...". I can boot Ubuntu 9.04 using the old kernel version left behind from Ubuntu 8.10 (2.6.27-11-generic).

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I also downloaded the ISO of Ubuntu 9.04 from ubuntu.com. MD5 turned out OK. I put the ISO on my 4GB USB memory stick using Unetbootin. When I boot from it, after selecting "Try Ubuntu without ony change to your computer" from the menu, it also hangs saying "Loading, please wait..."

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Today, I received in my mailbox the Ubuntu 9.04 CD I ordered from ShipIt. I put it in my DVD writer, boot from it, and this too also hangs after selecting "Try Ubuntu without ony change to your computer" from the menu.

From the behaviors described above, I can only conclude that there must be some kind of incompatibility between my hardware and the new kernel (2.6.28) in Ubuntu 9.04.

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

What kernel from upstream did you suggest to install ? 2.6.30 or the latest 2.6.28 ?

[aberner (berner)]

Same here.

Motherboard Asus P5VD2-MX does not work with 2.6.28 . Only if you do "acpi=off" it comes up.
I also have a Nvidia 7600 GS which does not work with "acpi=off" (fallback to low-graphics-mode).
If I additionally add "noacpi" it starts with the nvidia-driver (v180) but hangs after some minutes.

I use BIOS Version 1007. There is allready a Version 1017, but in changelog is nothing with ACPI.

Up to Ubuntu 8.10 I had no problems with that machine.

[Bert (richarda-paradise)]

Bryan: Have installed 2.6.28-13 from Ubuntu proposed repository and still have the problem

[Bryan Wu (cooloney)]

Thanks guys,

Please try mainline build here 2.6.30 stable release kernel or 2.6.29 kernel:
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.29.4/
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/

So please let us know the result, whether this issue is still in such upstream kernel mainline kernel.

Thansk again.

-Bryan

[aberner (berner)]

regarding my post on 2009-06-13.
It better fits to bug #372375 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/372375

Bryan: anyway I will test these Kernels and post the result here and at #372375

[aberner (berner)]

ok, now I tested both mainline kernels v2.6.29.4 and v2.6.30.
all kernels work well with "acpi=off".

If I remove "acpi=off" kernel 2.6.29 behaves same as 2.6.28 (delivered with ubuntu 9.04) - systems hangs at "loading, please wait..."
Kernel 2.6.30 without "acpi=off" did little bit more - ubuntu boot-screen came but then system hangs. IO-problems with harddisk. See (real) screenshot in the attachement.

[shayguitarra (sheamus)]

I have tried this as well. Running MSI K9N SLI Platinum motherboard with AMD 64 Dual Core Processor.

2.6.29 will boot with acpi=off.
However please note that 2.6.28 would also boot in this way *sometimes*. For the past few weeks I have been booting with "nolapic" which is not ideal as I effectively lose half of my processor. (With acpi=off my pc won't shut down properly. It stops at system halted but is still on. With nolapic it shuts down properly.) But I will see if 2.6.29 boots consistently with the acpi=off option.

2.6.30 fails while trying to build the nvidia 180.44 so I haven't tried with this one yet.

[Bryan Wu (cooloney)]

@aberner and shayguitarra, i think your issues is different from the original problem in this tracker.

@emmanuel can you try the mainline build kernel to boot your machine. If it is OK, I think this XSAVE issue was fixed in upstream. I will backport this patch to our Jaunty kernel later.

-Bryan

[shayguitarra (sheamus)]

Hi Bryan,

Do you think we should raise a new bug report then?

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

I have installed 2.6.30 from mainline, and all is ok. I t boot like a charm. I will try 2.6.29 later.

[iceaway (pelle-windestam)]

I think I am having the same problem. When booting it freezes right after "Starting up...", and if I remove the quiet splash options I can see that it stops after
[some time] io scheduler cfq registered (default)

I tried using all the options, acpi=off, noacpi, noapic, nolapic, clocksource=jiffies etc but nothing works. I began with the 2.6.28 kernel that came with my 9.04 installation, and later upgraded to 2.6.30 but that did not make any difference. If I have a usb-stick with the LiveCD/installation on it inserted when I boot it works fine. I have a XFX MI-A78S8209 GeForce 8200 motherboard.

[aberner (berner)]

Bryan: for sure, bug #372375 fits exactly to my issue with the Asus P5VD2-MX motherboard.

[Bryan Wu (cooloney)]

emmanuel, we found this upstream fixing was already merged to Jaunty kernel. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git;a=commitdiff;h=6de0c79f31daafff7f83555fde64e92debbc411c. Could you please test the latest Jaunty kernel? I'm going to set this bug to Fix in Release.

Thanks
-Bryan

[emmanuel (le-unamme)]

sorry for the long time response but I was not here for a while.

The last kernel boot well, as expected.
Because jaunty is not a LTS I believe there will not be a 9.04.1 version of the iso, so jaunty will became the very first version of ubuntu since warty that I can't install from the cd, no problems, because there's always ways to do it, just sometimes frustrating, but again no offense, and thank you for the work, the good work.