Install applications chooser

Bug #203977 reported by Andrea Corbellini
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Bug Description

It would be great to have a list of applications to install in the Live CD.
This feature has been added in Anaconda for Fedora.

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Colin Watson (cjwatson) wrote :

This isn't an accurate representation of the question that was originally asked. The question was whether we could arrange for settings made while using the live CD to be copied over to the installed system.

We did consider this when we initially designed the live CD installer, but were very concerned that doing so would render installations much less supportable. In other words, you might (accidentally) completely screw up the live CD environment such that GNOME wouldn't be able to start, then install Ubuntu, and then complain when GNOME doesn't start. Also, it is rather difficult to distinguish customisations made automatically during the live CD boot process from deliberate user customisations. Thus, I don't expect that this is a feature we will be able to offer soon. I would rather make it clear to users that changes they make while running the live CD will not be preserved.

(Selecting a list of applications to install is much less feasible, because the live CD installer works by simply copying over a filesystem and isn't really set up for package selection. You're much better off simply installing them afterwards anyway; if you want to deploy many systems that way then the alternate installer or netboot is available.)

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subliminalfix (na1tr2lp-deactivatedaccount) wrote : Re: Install applications chooser-places to find a application for change

perhaps gentoo or fedora or beryl

may have something that may be applied

or even santa fe

 or arc(which i havent been able to get going but seems great on the report of most major universities)

 or blagblagblag ( completely free corperate overthrough ... the original gobuntu )

also i think this may help pure:dyne

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subliminalfix (na1tr2lp-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

also i have thought that using the live version offers suported

options suggestios as does the install apllication

such as "removing ubuntu minimal may not allow updates etc"

 this will give rise to technical support

confirmation and perhaps eleviate the demand burden for

releasing programs that are not completely supported

for example

you could print something similar to this in your history or map

Requirements for the release of Beryl 0.2.0:

    * All major work items resolved
    * Zero functional regressions from Beryl 0.1.2
    * Zero performance regressions from Beryl 0.1.2
    * Zero stability regressions from Beryl 0.1.2
    * Fully beta testing of development release
    * All bugs marked as blocker resolved
    * l10n support of "acceptable" quality
    * New user interfaces must conform to GNOME Human Interface Guidelines

peace =]

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Andrea Corbellini (andrea.corbellini) wrote :

A solution could be listing all applications which should be shown by gnome-app-install. An another one (which should be better) could be creating a metapackage (u|go|ku|xu)ubuntu-desktop-all (or something similar) which depends on all optional packages.

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subliminalfix (na1tr2lp-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

andrea corbellini thanks for the thought

to add to your input this seems like a real step......

my input to thjis would be to have a function menu which would guide or tailor each client into there system

perhaps the meta is now there its just a matter of bringing it into configuration from the jump to keep the seed from

defect

the option to remove or completely remove in the synaptic also raises questions on this issue ???????????/

as to the meta yes its there now how do you extract it to the install??

so were supposing an addition screen which asks a choice of genre or field to tailor immediately to each consumer

thus bringing them back to the kde there comfortable with or helping them into a field

that is resourceful to there ambition

and as well the next step could be to execute each package such as in

for example ie bunutu if the are in midi or just sample production

this would add statistical analysis to each component beyond the "popularity" contest

and allow suppository information to be kept clean in distrobution

because the ubuntu server would handle each case accordingly or suppository mirror )authorized(

this is the concept now it just requires perhaps an additional layer to focus on specific issues

.i understand this is some bit of disk

if you look at most other www.linux.org models your going to find the live cd

and the install cd are quiet different in size 2 to 8 g for ex

so yes

1. provide a more intuitive install application

2 allow pre-configuraton in that architecture

3. provide supported assistance to packages fully supported with or without commercila installation

please add to this and thanks for your time in this

if you do develop a package with this additude could you call it ivy rain

or just rain

peace ;;;;;;;; \\\\\\\\\\ =[

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Colin Watson (cjwatson) wrote :

This bug is drifting to the point where it is not possible for it ever to be fixed because it is trying to achieve very wide goals (for instance, "provide a more intuitive install application" is obviously something that everyone wants, but bug reports should be about *specific* *defined* ways to achieve this). Please keep comments short and to the point. Bugs are requests for software changes, and so they need to be about single issues. Different issues should be filed as different bug reports, or as mailing list discussions if they aren't clear enough to request individual software changes yet.

Wildly different sets of applications are handled by way of different derivatives of Ubuntu. Given that the live CD installer fundamentally operates by copying the live CD image to the hard disk and then tweaking it a bit, having it install totally different sets of applications is never going to be something it handles particularly gracefully. Please use the alternate CD instead for that kind of thing, or even just install an ordinary system and use Add/Remove... to add more applications. You don't have to do everything in the initial operating system installer, and indeed you probably shouldn't because that makes the installer less comprehensible to people who don't need all the bells and whistles.

I think the only part we're willing to address in ubiquity is some kind of system for dealing with users' configuration settings in the live CD environment. I strongly request that this bug be limited to this.

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subliminalfix (na1tr2lp-deactivatedaccount) wrote : Re: [Bug 203977] Re: Install applications chooser
Evan (ev)
Changed in ubiquity:
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
status: New → Confirmed
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Marcus Tomlinson (marcustomlinson) wrote :

This release of Ubuntu is no longer receiving maintenance updates. If this is still an issue on a maintained version of Ubuntu please let us know.

Changed in ubiquity (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Incomplete
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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

[Expired for ubiquity (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60 days.]

Changed in ubiquity (Ubuntu):
status: Incomplete → Expired
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