Please remove firefox from artful on ppc64el

[Jeremy Bícha]

As discussed at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-September/039962.html

please remove firefox from ppc64el for artful.

$ reverse-depends src:firefox -a ppc64el
Reverse-Recommends
==================
* ardour (for firefox)
* djview-plugin (for firefox)
* gcu-plugin (for firefox)
* jclic (for firefox)
* kubuntu-desktop (for firefox)
* kubuntu-full (for firefox)
* libknopflerfish-osgi-java-doc (for firefox)
* lxde (for firefox)
* lxqt (for firefox)
* nip2 (for firefox)
* rhythmbox-mozilla (for firefox)
* ubuntu-desktop (for firefox)
* ubuntu-gnome-desktop (for firefox)
* ubuntu-mate-core (for firefox)
* ubuntu-mate-desktop (for firefox)
* ubuntukylin-desktop (for firefox-locale-zh-hans)
* ubuntukylin-desktop (for firefox)
* ubuntustudio-desktop (for firefox)
* xsane (for firefox)
* xubuntu-desktop (for firefox)

Reverse-Depends
===============
* cinnamon-desktop-environment (for firefox) (arch:all)
* firefox-launchpad-plugin (for firefox) (arch:all)
* garmin-plugin (for firefox)
* gnome-core (for firefox)
* mediatomb (for firefox) (alternate depends)
* mozplugger (for firefox)
* sugar-firefox-activity (for firefox) (arch:all)
* ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn (for firefox-locale-zh-hans) (arch:all)
* ubuntu-online-tour (for firefox) (arch: all)
* webhttrack (for firefox) (alternate depends)
* xul-ext-classic-theme-restorer (for firefox) (arch:all)
* xul-ext-colorfultabs (for firefox)(arch:all)
* xul-ext-form-history-control (for firefox) (arch:all)
* xul-ext-https-finder (for firefox) (arch:all)
* xul-ext-iceweasel-branding (for firefox) (arch:all)
* xul-ext-kwallet5 (for firefox) (alternate depends)
* xul-ext-lightbeam (for firefox) (arch:all)
* xul-ext-mozvoikko (for firefox) (arch:all)
* xul-ext-password-editor (for firefox) (arch:all)
* xul-ext-pdf.js (for firefox) (arch:all)
* xul-ext-self-destructing-cookies (for firefox) (arch:all)
* xul-ext-spdy-indicator (for firefox) (arch:all)
* xul-ext-ublock-origin (for firefox) (arch:all)
* xul-ext-video-without-flash (for firefox) (arch:all)
* xul-ext-y-u-no-validate (for firefox) (arch:all)

Plan
----
Please also remove

garmin-plugin (armhf and ppc64el)
mozplugger everywhere and blacklist it

[Chris Coulson (chrisccoulson)]

No, please don't remove it on armhf. We have people actually using it there, and it needs fixing

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

Right, the archs we want to remove it from are ppc64el and s390x

[Jeremy Bícha (jbicha)]

I'm setting the bug to incomplete because it needs more triage of the reverse-depends so that it's clear what we want the Archive Admins to do.

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

garmin-plugin build-depends on firefox, so it's fine to remove these binaries without fear of them coming back in a subsequent upload.

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

Removing packages from artful:
 garmin-plugin 0.3.23-5ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
Comment: Depends on firefox, unsupported on ppc64el; LP: #1715030
1 package successfully removed.

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

Jeremy, your suggested resolution for mozplugger is to remove it and blacklist it. Blacklisting implies that Debian wants to keep the package, but Ubuntu wants to get rid of it. Why does that apply here? If mozplugger is no longer useful with current browsers, it would be better to remove it from Ubuntu now, and also file a request for removal in Debian; the package is QA-maintained, so it's appropriate for any of us to file that removal request.

Or if you believe the package should remain in Debian, why does that rationale not also apply in Ubuntu?

[Micah Gersten (micahg)]

I'm not sure if there are still any third party NPAPI plugins out there. I believe they're disabled by default now, but still overridable, so it might make sense to keep mozplugger for the time being. Chris can correct me if I'm mistaken here.

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

Not annotated in the original bug report:

> * gnome-core (for firefox)

Still needs to be decided.

> * mediatomb (for firefox)

Depends: iceweasel | firefox | www-browser, so that's ok.

> * sugar-firefox-activity (for firefox)

This is also arch: all.

> * ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn (for firefox-locale-zh-hans)

Arch: all.

> * ubuntu-online-tour (for firefox)

Arch: all.

> * webhttrack (for firefox)

Depends: iceape-browser | iceweasel | icecat | mozilla | firefox | mozilla-firefox | www-browser

> * xul-ext-kwallet5 (for firefox)

Depends: firefox (>= 13.0) | thunderbird (>= 13.0), and thunderbird is available on ppc64el.

> * xul-ext-lightbeam (for firefox)

Arch: all.

> * xul-ext-mozvoikko (for firefox)

Arch: all.

> * xul-ext-password-editor (for firefox)

Arch: all.

> * xul-ext-pdf.js (for firefox)

Arch: all.

> * xul-ext-self-destructing-cookies (for firefox)

Arch: all.

> * xul-ext-spdy-indicator (for firefox)

Arch: all.

> * xul-ext-ublock-origin (for firefox)

Arch: all.

> * xul-ext-video-without-flash (for firefox)

Arch: all.

> * xul-ext-y-u-no-validate (for firefox)

Arch: all.

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

meta-gnome2 must either drop the dependency on firefox/chromium on ppc64el, or drop the gnome-core package on ppc64el. (The latter probably means dropping meta-gnome2 entirely on this architecture and can be done by either adding a build-dep on firefox or by excluding the architecture.)

[Chris Coulson (chrisccoulson)]

Wow, there's a lot of extensions there. Those should probably all be removed from the archive, given that we offer no support for those and there are better ways to install them.

Plugins other than Flash are all blocked in Firefox now, and there is no override for these. They might still work in Webkit though.

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

Chris,

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 12:41:36PM -0000, Chris Coulson wrote:
> Wow, there's a lot of extensions there. Those should probably all be
> removed from the archive, given that we offer no support for those and
> there are better ways to install them.

That's fine, but please file separate bug reports for these then. These are
not critical path for getting firefox updated in artful; only meta-gnome2
and mozplugger are.

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

Of course, since mozplugger is itself a plugin, and is no longer supported by firefox, it makes sense that we should remove this. It should probably be removed from Debian as well, so I won't blacklist it for the moment.

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

Removing packages from artful:
 mozplugger 1.14.5-2 in artful
  mozplugger 1.14.5-2 in artful amd64
  mozplugger 1.14.5-2 in artful arm64
  mozplugger 1.14.5-2 in artful armhf
  mozplugger 1.14.5-2 in artful i386
  mozplugger 1.14.5-2 in artful ppc64el
  mozplugger 1.14.5-2 in artful s390x
Comment: Plugins are no longer supported by firefox; LP: #1715030
1 package successfully removed.

[Launchpad Janitor (janitor)]

This bug was fixed in the package meta-gnome3 - 1:3.22+5ubuntu2

---------------
meta-gnome3 (1:3.22+5ubuntu2) artful; urgency=medium

  * Allow epiphany-browser to fulfil the browser role on ppc64el
    (LP: #1715030)

 -- Jeremy Bicha <email address hidden> Fri, 22 Sep 2017 18:47:08 -0400

[Steve Langasek (vorlon)]

Removing packages from artful:
 firefox 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-dbg 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-dev 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-globalmenu 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-af 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-an 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-ar 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-as 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-ast 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-az 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-be 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-bg 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-bn 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-br 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-bs 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-ca 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-cak 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-cs 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-csb 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-cy 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-da 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-de 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-el 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-en 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-eo 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-es 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-et 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-eu 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-fa 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-fi 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-fr 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-fy 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-ga 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-gd 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-gl 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-gn 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-gu 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-he 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-hi 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-hr 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-hsb 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-hu 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-hy 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-id 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-is 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-it 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-ja 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-ka 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-kk 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-km 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-kn 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-locale-ko 50.1.0+build2-0ubuntu1 in artful ppc64el
 firefox-loca...