Error running MadGraph 2.5.5 with long-lived particles
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MadGraph5_aMC@NLO |
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Bug Description
Hi,
I have found what may not be a bug, per se, but is certainly problematic for specific MadGraph users. The problem concerns simulating SUSY particles with long lifetimes/small decay widths.
I recently switched from generating an event with MadGraph version 2.4.3 to a more recent release, 2.5.5, when I noticed the program crashing with the following errors:
ERROR: The width of particle 1000022 is too small for an s-channel resonance (6.58211928e-16). If you have this particle in an s-channel, this is likely to create numerical instabilities .
I have attached the full logfile, and the param and run cards.
Since such a detailed error message exists, this is clearly not a mistake. The ability for users in ATLAS to simulate particles with long lifetimes is necessary for many analyses, so it seems necessary that this restriction be removed. Looking forward to hearing from you,
Thanks,
Rebecca
Dear Rebecca,
Do you really have a crash?
In principle what can happen is three things:
1) The code finishes but takes a very long time and do not reach the requested number of events.
2) The code finishes but the cross-section is not production times branching ratio.
3) The code finishes correctly.
Note that nothing was changed on support of long-lived particle from 2.4.3 to 2.5.5 on that topic.
The only difference is the printing of such message in order to warn the user that the width is so small that you should expect numerical inaccuracy if that particle is in a s-channel resonances (i.e. it is produced and decayed inside MadGraph).
If your Feynman diagram does not contain such case, you should be fine to ignore that message.
If you face such numerical problem, you have to use a workaround:
1) use MadSpin (potentially with "onshell" mode)
2) increase the value of the width to 1e-8 times the mass of that particle (and change the cross-section and/or the coupling accordingly)
Cheers,
Olivier
> On 27 Aug 2017, at 07:50, Rebecca Carney <email address hidden> wrote: /bugs.launchpad .net/bugs/ 1713298/ +attachment/ 4939554/ +files/ errorInfo. tar.gz /bugs.launchpad .net/bugs/ 1713298
>
> Public bug reported:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have found what may not be a bug, per se, but is certainly problematic for specific MadGraph users. The problem concerns simulating SUSY particles with long lifetimes/small decay widths.
> I recently switched from generating an event with MadGraph version 2.4.3 to a more recent release, 2.5.5, when I noticed the program crashing with the following errors:
>
> ERROR: The width of particle 1000022 is too small for an s-channel
> resonance (6.58211928e-16). If you have this particle in an s-channel,
> this is likely to create numerical instabilities .
>
> I have attached the full logfile, and the param and run cards.
>
> Since such a detailed error message exists, this is clearly not a
> mistake. The ability for users in ATLAS to simulate particles with long
> lifetimes is necessary for many analyses, so it seems necessary that
> this restriction be removed. Looking forward to hearing from you,
>
> Thanks,
> Rebecca
>
> ** Affects: mg5amcnlo
> Importance: Undecided
> Status: New
>
>
> ** Tags: 2.5.5 llp long-lived particle
>
> ** Attachment added: "Tar containing run log, param card, and run card."
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> Title:
> Error running MadGraph 2.5.5 with long-lived particles
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> Bug description:
> Hi,
>
> I have found what may not be a bug, per se, but is certainly problematic for specific MadGraph users. The problem concerns simulating SUSY particles with long lifetimes/small decay widths.
> I recently switched from generating an event with MadGraph version 2.4.3 to a more recent release, 2.5.5, when I noticed the program crashing with the following errors:
>
> ERROR: The width of particle 1000022 is too small for an s-channel
> resonance (6.58211928e-16). If you have this particle in an s-channel,
> this is likely to create numerical inst...