please drop Subsurface

[Dirk Hohndel]

The Subsurface team is making current packages available from their PPA. These packages don't follow the packaging guidelines as they include forked libraries (libmarble and libdivecomputer). The changes in these libraries have 0% chance of being accepted upstream, yet not using those libraries gives inferior user experience.

The Subsurface package in Ubuntu is a few versions behind upstream (we currently ship 4.4.1 and are planning for 4.5) - we have about 300 users of our own 4.4.1 binaries from our PPA on various Ubuntu versions.

I'd appreciate if this package was dropped from Ubuntu to avoid end user confusion.

This concerns all versions of Ubuntu, but we actively provide packages for 14.04, 14.10, and 15.04

[Sylvestre Ledru (sylvestre)]

As the Debian maintainer of this package, I approve Dirk's request.

[Daniel Holbach (dholbach)]

The package does not seem to exist in wily anymore.

Can it be added to the PPA for wily?

[Sylvestre Ledru (sylvestre)]

Yes, the package has been removed in Debian ( https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=795267 )
I don't have any plan for a PPA, maybe Dirk has some plans. FYI, upstream is providing Ubuntu packages.

[Dirk Hohndel (dirk-3)]

My apologies - we are a few days away from releasing Subsurface 4.5 - almost certainly
before wily will be released. So I wasn't going to bother with 4.4.2 for that. Daily builds
for wily are available - so those testing pre-release Ubuntu can also test pre-release
Subsurface :-)

/D

> On Oct 11, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Daniel Holbach <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> The package does not seem to exist in wily anymore.
>
> Can it be added to the PPA for wily?
>
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> Title:
> please drop Subsurface
>
> Status in subsurface package in Ubuntu:
> New
>
> Bug description:
> The Subsurface team is making current packages available from their
> PPA. These packages don't follow the packaging guidelines as they
> include forked libraries (libmarble and libdivecomputer). The changes
> in these libraries have 0% chance of being accepted upstream, yet not
> using those libraries gives inferior user experience.
>
> The Subsurface package in Ubuntu is a few versions behind upstream (we
> currently ship 4.4.1 and are planning for 4.5) - we have about 300
> users of our own 4.4.1 binaries from our PPA on various Ubuntu
> versions.
>
> I'd appreciate if this package was dropped from Ubuntu to avoid end
> user confusion.
>
> This concerns all versions of Ubuntu, but we actively provide packages
> for 14.04, 14.10, and 15.04
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/subsurface/+bug/1448240/+subscriptions

[Colin Watson (cjwatson)]

This is gone from wily, following Debian. Packages in stable releases are expected to be older, and we don't normally remove packages from stable releases, and have no normal procedure for doing so (in extreme cases they could be "removed" by replacing them with dummy packages, but this is usually overkill). With a new LTS coming up soon, hopefully this is enough.