"system", "settings" and "utilities" menus need refinement & other kmenu observations

[Reuben Firmin]

Binary package hint: kubuntu-desktop

The KMenu could use some tidying for the next release of kubuntu. Some of these complaints are due to packaging, and therefore might be assigned directly to those packages. Nevertheless, I think the problem should be dealt with from a central perspective. Here are my observations:

1) System and Utilities have overlap.
a) Some "system utilities" are under "utilities" (disk usage analyzer, krusader, kjobviewer, kmousetool).
b) Some "utitilies" are under "system" (htop, aterm, konsole)

2) Settings and System have overlap.
a) Some duplicates appear in both (boot up manager)
b) Some of the "system" entries are really "settings" (beryl settings manager, boot up manager, software sources)

3) Confusingly, there are also special menus "System Menu" and "Settings" which provide KDE specific (non-application) choices

4) Also, there is a System Settings item on the menu, which gives access to the trimmed down view of KControl (which I rarely use, because it's usually not very useful)

Hopefully you agree there is a problem in the organization. Here's a quick proposal, but do not take the proposal as being the meat of this bug (the above is):

1) System
--> KDE Settings
-----> [Built in KDE config that used to live in the special "Settings" menu]
--> Hardware Tools
-----> All applications related to printer, mouse, etc..., Kubuntu Device Database, Disk Usage Analyzer, ...
--> Configuration
-----> Boot Up Manager, Beryl Settings Manager, KUser, Adept, Synaptic, ...

2) Utilities
--> All apps not related to one of the above submenus

[Rich Johnson (nixternal)]

I can follow you on #1. The desktop files used for those applications are provided via KDE I believe, but w/o further checking of each package, I can't be 100% positive.

#2, Where is a Settings menu located? I don't have one with Feisty. I do believe the "Settings" menu did appear during the Feisty development cycle because I remember HPLIP in there I think.

#3, I would agree that System Menu would be confusing, however just under the title is a fairly large description of what it is.

#4, this will stay, this is the Kubuntu main settings panel. It will get better as time goes on, actually, I wonder what it will be like for KDE 4.

#1 is the only one I can agree on, the other 3 may be a mixture of having some left over remnants during the development cycle or may be considered a wishlist type feature as well.

So because of all that, I will keep this as a wishlist report for future development talks. Thanks.

[Launchpad Janitor (janitor)]

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