[HDA, ALC889,optical spdif] Driver did not create IEC958 device + Digital Out volume reset

[Espen Lund]

I tend to switch default playback between two outputs on the same soundcard, the s/pdif digital out and 3.55mm headphone jack. I expect both devices to save their previous output levels from last time i used it. This doesn't happen.

If i were to put my output volume on "s/pdif out" to 50%, and change my default playback to headphones to then switch back. I would notice that the sound volume of s/pdif returns to 100%. Basicly reseting, everytime i switch default playback device.

However, this only occurs if i switch between outputs on the SAME soundcard. If i were to switch from s/pdif output on my integrated Intel soundcard, to 3.55mm on my discrete Creative X-Fi Soundcard and then back. The output volume would still be the same.

It was very easy to reproduce this problem i have, done in atleast 20 seconds.
Just change the output volumes, and switch output on the same soundcard at "Sound" settings in Ubuntu 12.10

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
Package: alsa-base 1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu3
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-25.38-generic 3.5.7.4
Uname: Linux 3.5.0-25-generic x86_64
NonfreeKernelModules: fglrx
ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu10
Architecture: amd64
Date: Sun Feb 24 11:22:52 2013
InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-02-15 (8 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
MarkForUpload: True
PackageArchitecture: all
ProcEnviron:
 TERM=xterm
 PATH=(custom, no user)
 XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=<set>
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: alsa-driver
Symptom: audio
Symptom_Card: Barts HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6800 Series] - HD-Audio Generic
Symptom_Type: Volume slider, or mixer problems
Title: [HDA-Intel - HDA Intel, playback] volume slider problem
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
dmi.bios.date: 08/25/2011
dmi.bios.vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
dmi.bios.version: 6.00 PG
dmi.board.name: X58 SLI Classified
dmi.board.vendor: EVGA
dmi.board.version: Tylersburg
dmi.chassis.type: 3
dmi.chassis.vendor: OEM
dmi.chassis.version: OEM
dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnPhoenixTechnologies,LTD:bvr6.00PG:bd08/25/2011:svnOEM:pnOEM:pvrOEM:rvnEVGA:rnX58SLIClassified:rvrTylersburg:cvnOEM:ct3:cvrOEM:
dmi.product.name: OEM
dmi.product.version: OEM
dmi.sys.vendor: OEM

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

there is no volume control for the digital device

the volume is controlled by your digital receiver

[Espen Lund (espenlund)]

What do you mean raymond?
http://i.imgur.com/vVhlqTJ.png

The volume control im using in Ubuntu, functions the same as the volume knobs i have on my speakers.

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

!-------Mixer controls for card 3 [Generic]

Card hw:3 'Generic'/'HD-Audio Generic at 0xf3bfc000 irq 61'
  Mixer name : 'ATI R6xx HDMI'
  Components : 'HDA:1002aa01,00aa0100,00100200'
  Controls : 6
  Simple ctrls : 1
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]

[Espen Lund (espenlund)]

Might just say, the device named "HDMI/Display Port" is the only device letting me utilize the integrated s/pdif output.
I am not using the HDMI/Display Port at my gfx card at all.

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

Node 0x06 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x211: Stereo Digital
  Converter: stream=8, channel=0
  Digital: Enabled GenLevel
  Digital category: 0x2
  PCM:
    rates [0x5f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM

Node 0x1e [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400300: Mono Digital
  Control: name="SPDIF Phantom Jack", index=1, device=0
  Pincap 0x00000010: OUT
  Pin Default 0x01441120: [Jack] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear
    Conn = RCA, Color = Black
    DefAssociation = 0x2, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x06

do you mean PCM softvol affect the volume of digital out when IEC958 Default PCM is on ?

Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume penum
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 235 [92%] [-4.00dB]
  Front Right: Playback 235 [92%] [-4.00dB]

Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined penum
  Playback channels: Mono
  Capture channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Default PCM',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]

[Espen Lund (espenlund)]

Yes i mean PCM softvol affect the volume of digital out when using PCM.

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git;a=commit;h=9a08160bdbe3148a405f72798f76e2a5d30bd243

do you mean that you are using analog output profile with iec958 default pcm ON

instead of using digital output profile ?

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

do you mean the driver should select the audio output 0x06 instead of 0x10 as the primary digital output ?

Node 0x10 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x211: Stereo Digital
  Control: name="IEC958 Playback Con Mask", index=0, device=0
  Control: name="IEC958 Playback Pro Mask", index=0, device=0
  Control: name="IEC958 Playback Default", index=0, device=0
  Control: name="IEC958 Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
  Control: name="IEC958 Default PCM Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
  Device: name="ALC889 Digital", type="HDMI", device=3
  Converter: stream=8, channel=0
  Digital: Enabled GenLevel
  Digital category: 0x2
  PCM:
    rates [0x5f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Node 0x11 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400300: Mono Digital
  Control: name="HDMI Phantom Jack", index=0, device=0
  Pincap 0x00000010: OUT
  Pin Default 0x18567130: [Jack] Digital Out at Int HDMI
    Conn = Digital, Color = Yellow
    DefAssociation = 0x3, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x10

[Espen Lund (espenlund)]

You understand my problem? I am not very good technical, but i think i am using digital output and 0x06.
Here is a photo of setup: http://i.imgur.com/K61Y8PI.jpg
Video of problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7dBJkviD4Y&feature=youtu.be

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=28&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=173

Support for 16/20/24-bit SPDIF input and output with up to 192kHz sample rate offers easy connection of PCs to consumer electronic products such as digital decoders and speakers.

The ALC889 also features secondary SPDIF-OUT output and converter to transport digital audio output to a High Definition Media Interface (HDMI) transmitter.

 IEC 958 should be device 1

card 2: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC889 Analog [ALC889 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Intel [HDA Intel], device 3: ALC889 Digital [ALC889 Digital]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0'

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

there is another bug

card 2: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC889 Analog [ALC889 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Intel [HDA Intel], device 2: ALC889 Analog [ALC889 Analog]
  Subdevices: 2/2
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
card 2: Intel [HDA Intel], device 3: ALC889 Digital [ALC889 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

 type cannot be HDMI since the pin default of node 0x1f is spdif in,

Node 0x0a [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100391: Stereo Digital
  Control: name="IEC958 Capture Switch", index=0, device=0
  Control: name="IEC958 Capture Default", index=0, device=0
  Device: name="ALC889 Digital", type="HDMI", device=3
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  SDI-Select: 0
  Digital:
  Digital category: 0x0
  PCM:
    rates [0x570]: 32000 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
  Connection: 1
     0x1f

Node 0x1f [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400280: Mono Digital
  Control: name="SPDIF In Phantom Jack", index=0, device=0
  Pincap 0x00000020: IN
  Pin Default 0x01c46160: [Jack] SPDIF In at Ext Rear
    Conn = RCA, Color = Orange
    DefAssociation = 0x6, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
  Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

[Jack] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear and node 0x06 should be the primary spdif when the codec support two independent spdif out

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

alsa lib expect spdif is device 1 for hda intel

http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-lib.git;a=blob;f=src/conf/cards/HDA-Intel.conf;hb=HEAD

HDA-Intel.pcm.iec958.0 {
 @args [ CARD AES0 AES1 AES2 AES3 ]
 @args.CARD {
  type string
 }
 @args.AES0 {
  type integer
 }
 @args.AES1 {
  type integer
 }
 @args.AES2 {
  type integer
 }
 @args.AES3 {
  type integer
 }
 type asym
 playback.pcm {
  type hooks
  slave.pcm {
   type hw
   card $CARD
   device 1
  }
  hooks.0 {
   type ctl_elems
   hook_args [
   {
    name "IEC958 Playback Default"
    index 16
    optional true
    lock true
    preserve true
    value [ $AES0 $AES1 $AES2 $AES3 ]
   }
   {
    name "IEC958 Playback Switch"
    index 16
    optional true
    value true
    # if this element is present, skip the rest
    skip_rest true
   }
   {
    name "IEC958 Playback Default"
    lock true
    preserve true
    value [ $AES0 $AES1 $AES2 $AES3 ]
   }
   {
    name "IEC958 Playback Switch"
    value true
   }
   ]
  }
 }
 capture.pcm {
  type hooks
  slave.pcm {
   type hw
   card $CARD
   device 1
  }
  hooks.0 {
   type ctl_elems
   hook_args [
   {
    name "IEC958 Capture Switch"
    lock true
    preserve true
    value true
   }
   ]
  }
 }
 hint.device 1
}

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

Coaxial SPDIF Output
Optical SPDIF Output

refer to user manual of the motherboard, there is no HDMI and spdif in

but the manual did not mention that the coaxial and optical can work independently ?

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

  Pin Default 0x01441120: [Jack] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear
     Conn = RCA, Color = Black
     DefAssociation = 0x2, Sequence = 0x0
     Misc = NO_PRESENCE

the pin default seem to be coaxial since optical should be 5

Table 112. Connection Type Connection Type Encoding
Unknown 0h
1/8" stereo/mono 1h
1/4" stereo/mono 2h
ATAPI internal 3h
RCA 4h
Optical 5h
Other Digital 6h
Other Analog 7h
Multichannel Analog (DIN) 8h
XLR/Professional 9h
RJ-11 (Modem) Ah
Combination Bh
Other Fh

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git;a=commitdiff;h=0852d7a654f75d22a3c09fd7da4a3551bbb37740;hp=32d2c7fa1344ddf51886eddf31e228d139501dc6

send email to the author of the patch "ALSA: hda - Detect multiple digital-out pins"

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

Codec: Realtek ALC889
Address: 2
AFG Function Id: 0x1 (unsol 1)
Vendor Id: 0x10ec0889
Subsystem Id: 0x10de0175
Revision Id: 0x100004

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio.txt;hb=HEAD

spdif in can be changed to n/a Nguyen early patching

Early Patching
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When CONFIG_SND_HDA_PATCH_LOADER=y is set, you can pass a "patch" as a firmware file for modifying the HD-audio setup before initializing the codec. This can work basically like the reconfiguration via sysfs in the above, but it does it before the first codec configuration.

A patch file is a plain text file which looks like below:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
[codec]
 0x10ed0889 0x10details0175
 485
[model]
auto

[pincfg]
0x1f 0x41c46160

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

https://launchpad.net/~diwic/+archive/hda

try hda-jack-retask to change either node 0x11 or 0x1e to spdif out and the other to n/a to find out which node is optical or coaxial

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

on the other motherboard , the spdif is at node 0x1e

https://launchpadlibrarian.net/107520138/Card0.Codecs.codec.2.txt

Node 0x1e [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400300: Mono Digital
  Pincap 0x00000010: OUT
  Pin Default 0x01452130: [Jack] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear
    Conn = Optical, Color = Grey
    DefAssociation = 0x3, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Connection: 1
     0x06

[Espen Lund (espenlund)]

I am using optical out, and i don't get sound when i set 0x11 to spdif out and 0x1e to n/a.

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

have you try set the pin cfg of node 0x1e to spdif out and node 0x11 to n/a ?

[Espen Lund (espenlund)]

Ah, yes i have! Then it works, i get sound. Lol :)

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

does set the pincfg of node 0x1e to SPDIF Out (optical) enough to create device 1 ?

since you don`t have any coaxial spdif to verify the node 0x11 is connected to SPDIF Our (coaxial)

can you post the output of alsa-info.sh after the early patching ?

[Espen Lund (espenlund)]

setting 0x1e to SPDIF Out (optical) is not enough, to make "HDMI/Display" change name to "SPDIF Output". I need to put 0x11 to n/a for device to change name, after that it works: http://i.imgur.com/akMrqLR.png

But this only fix correct name for device right? This is nothing about pulseaudio bug i have? Still have problem with volume reset of spdif output, on both creative and intel hda.

alsa-info attached, after hda-jack-retask overriding done.

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

seem the control id did not start at 1 and softvol remain in asound.state when using dynamic reconfig

state.Intel {
 control.53 {
  iface MIXER
  name 'PCM Playback Volume'
  value.0 255
  value.1 255
  comment {
   access 'read write user'
   type INTEGER
   count 2
   range '0 - 255'
   tlv '0000000100000008ffffec1400000014'
   dbmin -5100
   dbmax 0
   dbvalue.0 0
   dbvalue.1 0
  }
 }
 control.158 {
  iface MIXER
  name 'Front Playback Volume'
  value.0 62
  value.1 62
  comment {
   access 'read write'
   type INTEGER
   count 2
   range '0 - 64'
   dbmin -6200
   dbmax 200
   dbvalue.0 0
   dbvalue.1 0
  }
 }

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

post the pulseaudio verbose log and pactl list

there is reaally no amp in the digital audio output and pin complex for AC3 passthough

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git;a=commit;h=ea9b43addc4d90ca5b029f47f85ca152320a1e8d

does the driver created duplicate IEC958 controls ?

you have to send email to the author if set both node 0x11 and 0x1e to spdif out don`t work

since the coaxial spdif may not work if node 0x11 to [N/A]

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

there are many changes in using the new generic auto conf

independent headphone

git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git;a=commit;h=38cf6f1a41e40a33d80924554b356fcd5b5d2751

use hint to enable new feature (independent HP, aamix,...)

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git;a=commit;h=1c70a583417e8db1e1d5069d7651ba294e9499de

alt analog device 2 (playback/capture)

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git;a=commit;h=a607148ff3b9f40427c0f0d5fa039a3a758735c7

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git;a=commitdiff;h=51e4152a969aa6d2306492ebf143932dcb535c9b;hp=9009b0e41c1e81e1a30acdb5d4ffbb6dc5e1345f

this patch is the logic of selecting which digital pin as primray

[Espen Lund (espenlund)]

Okay, i put 0x11 and 0x1e to spdif out, no difference. I got pulseaudio verbose log, but pulseaudio crashed many times and i have no audio devices anymore. Image: http://i.imgur.com/tKTeQL2.png Restarting pulseaudio don't help.

Pactl list gives: espen@espen-OEM:~$ pactl list
Connection failure: Connection refused
pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused
espen@espen-OEM:~$

How do i apply the patches? or should i wait for 3.9 kernel?

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

( 3.280| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-mixer.c: Activating path iec958-stereo-output
( 3.280| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-mixer.c: Path iec958-stereo-output (Digital Output (S/PDIF)), direction=1, priority=0, probed=yes, supported=yes, has_mute=yes, has_volume=no, has_dB=no, min_volume=0, max_volume=0, min_dB=inf, max_dB=-inf
( 3.280| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-mixer.c: Element IEC958, direction=1, switch=1, volume=0, volume_limit=-1, enumeration=0, required=0, required_any=0, required_absent=0, mask=0x0, n_channels=0, override_map=no
( 3.280| 0.000) I: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Driver does not support hardware volume control, falling back to software volume control.
( 3.280| 0.000) I: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Using hardware mute control.

you have to ask in pulseaudio mailing list how pulseaudio implement software volume control for the sink which does not support hardware volume control

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS

please post the alsa-info.sh when using the latest alsa driver with early patching of optical node 0x1e (RCA at node 0x11)

[Espen Lund (espenlund)]

With alsa-hda-dkms 0.201303071550~quantal1 installed, all output devices still gone after restart.
Did early patch with hda-jack-retask again, 0x1e -> spdif out and 0x11 -> n/a.

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

i think you have to discuss your case in alsa devel mailing list if latest snapshot still have this bug

the other case is Intel DH57JG

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/711598

 the type of dig out pin is determined by snd_hda_parse_pin_defcfg() in hda_auto_parser.c

 case AC_JACK_SPDIF_OUT:
  case AC_JACK_DIG_OTHER_OUT:
   if (cfg->dig_outs >= ARRAY_SIZE(cfg->dig_out_pins))
    continue;
   cfg->dig_out_pins[cfg->dig_outs] = nid;
   cfg->dig_out_type[cfg->dig_outs] =
    (loc == AC_JACK_LOC_HDMI) ?
    HDA_PCM_TYPE_HDMI : HDA_PCM_TYPE_SPDIF;
   cfg->dig_outs++;
   break;

[Espen Lund (espenlund)]

I sent a email to alsa-devel, but i wish to say that the volume reset bug seems to be a problem across many soundcards NOT only Realtek. Tried Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10, 13.04 alpha live cds on my and dad's computer. With Asus Xonar Essence STX i get same volume reset bug shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7dBJkviD4Y&t=00m15s

[Raymond (superquad-vortex2)]

you have to subscribe before you can send email

[Espen Lund (espenlund)]

I sent a mail to Pulseaudio mailing list, and a developer / co-maintainer is able to reproduce this bug :).
"Fortunately, I now tried this myself, and I'm able to reproduce the bug.
I wonder why this bug hasn't been noticed earlier, since this is a
really basic thing... I'll debug this on my own machine."

Hopefully there will be a fix very soon.

[Daniel van Vugt (vanvugt)]

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