Editor: Second alternative tool needs different access key

[GunChleoc]

In Ubuntu, Alt is grabbed by the window manager, so the second alternative tool in the editor can't be accessed. So, we need a different access key here. Maybe ALT GR or MODE would do the trick?

[Hans Joachim Desserud (hjd)]

I have to admit I haven't used the editor much, so I don't know much about this feature, but it was never clear to me what alt+click was supposed to do. (Plus I'm also running Ubuntu, so apart from moving the window about experimenting with it didn't yield much.)

Clicking places things, shift+click usually removes it again so those two are straight-forward. The editor tips includes this little hint: "Holding down ALT switches the second alternative tool on (if it exists)." So presumably, it is not available for all types/tools. Which type(s) is available for, and is it the same functionality offered for all these?

I think it will be easier to discuss this if we have a clear idea of what the functionality is supposed to provide and then we can look at how we can achieve this.

PS. Off-topic: Not familiar with the MODE key either, is this some alias along the lines of SUPER/windows key?

[wl-zocker (wl-zocker)]

The following tools provide a special functionality for the Alt key:
- height
- resources

In both cases, they use the "set" value, i.e. instead of increasing or decreasing the current value, it is set to a fixed number.
Note that the noise height tool also has a "set" value, but it is invoked by the shift key. If we go away from the first/second alternate tool rule, we might consider to change that behavior (new behavior: shift = opposite; Alt = set).
Tools that do not have a second alternate use the first alternate when the Alt key is held down.

Do not wonder that the keys behave strangely, that is bug 1418050.

[Nasenbaer (nasenbaer)]

this hit me several times as well. Therefore setting to confirmed. With a bit of luck, we find a solution until build19-rc1 :)

[SirVer (sirver)]

how about we use a(lternative) and s (next to a) for another tool instead of the modifier keys?

[GunChleoc (gunchleoc)]

I just tested this again. The left ALT key doesn't work, but the right ALT key does. So, maybe my analysis was wrong and there is a bug in our code.

[GunChleoc (gunchleoc)]

My analysis was not wrong. Added CTRL to the possible keys and updated help hext,

[kaputtnik (franku)]

My suggestions to the help texts as diff. See https://wl.widelands.org/forum/post/16816/ for the result.

[GunChleoc (gunchleoc)]

Fixed in build19-rc1.