Activity log for bug #832004

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2011-08-23 13:33:29 Matthew Paul Thomas bug added bug
2011-08-23 13:37:15 Matthew Paul Thomas description unity 4.8.2-0ubuntu4, Ubuntu Ocelot Example A: 1. Open three LibreOffice Writer documents: X, then Y, then Z. 2. Copy some text from Z. 3. Try to use Alt Tab to switch to document X. Example B: 1. Focus a LibreOffice document, then a browser window, then another LibreOffice document. 2. Try to use Alt Tab to switch to the first LibreOffice document. What happens: You can't -- unless you know about, remember, and have a free hand available to use, the arrow keys while still holding down the Alt key. This behavior is inconsistent with what practically every current or potential Ubuntu user will expect, regardless of what they have been using previously: * In every previous version of Ubuntu, Alt Tab lets you switch between every window. * In every version of Windows, Alt Tab lets you switch between every window. * In every version Mac OS X, Command Tab switches purely between applications, and there are other keyboard combos for switching between windows. Consistency of behavior in shortcut keys is more important than consistency of anything else in an interface. <http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html#consistency> Even if ease of migration was somehow not a concern, the design is wrong in at least three other ways. First, it is inconsistent with itself: the subset of windows that you can switch to with Alt Tab changes depending on which window is currently focused. Second, switching to a window outside this subset requires using two hands, when Alt Tab in one hand is very often used in combination with a mouse or touchpad in the other hand. And third, the overall result is that it is easier to switch to windows that you're *less* likely to want to switch to, and harder to switch to windows that you're *more* likely to want to switch to. What should happen: * Whatever visuals are applied to it, Alt Tab should switch strictly between windows by recency. * Any function for switching between applications should use a different keyboard combo. unity 4.8.2-0ubuntu4, Ubuntu Ocelot Example A: 1. Open three LibreOffice Writer documents: X, then Y, then Z. 2. Copy some text from Z. 3. Try to use Alt Tab to switch to document X. Example B: 1. Focus a LibreOffice document, then a browser window, then another LibreOffice document. 2. Try to use Alt Tab to switch to the first LibreOffice document. What happens: You can't -- unless you know about, remember, and have a free hand available to use, the arrow keys while still holding down the Alt key. This behavior is inconsistent with what practically every current or potential Ubuntu user will expect, regardless of what they have been using previously: * In every previous version of Ubuntu, Alt Tab lets you switch between every window. * In every version of Windows, Alt Tab lets you switch between every window. * In every version of Mac OS X, Command Tab switches purely between applications, and there are other keyboard combos for switching between windows. Consistency of behavior in shortcut keys is more important than consistency of anything else in an interface. <http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html#consistency> Even if ease of migration was somehow not a concern, the design is wrong in at least three other ways. First, it is inconsistent with itself: the subset of windows that you can switch to with Alt Tab changes depending on which window is currently focused. Second, switching to a window outside this subset requires using two hands, when Alt Tab in one hand is very often used in combination with a mouse or touchpad in the other hand. And third, the overall result is that it is easier to switch to windows that you're *less* likely to want to switch to, and harder to switch to windows that you're *more* likely to want to switch to. What should happen: * Whatever visuals are applied to it, Alt Tab should switch strictly between windows by recency. * Any function for switching between applications should use a different keyboard combo.
2011-08-23 14:54:25 Yann Dìnendal bug added subscriber Yann Dìnendal
2011-08-23 15:17:04 Neil J. Patel bug task added ayatana-design
2011-08-23 15:17:27 Neil J. Patel unity: status New Incomplete
2011-08-26 11:18:47 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos bug added subscriber Fitoschido
2011-08-31 03:32:54 Fumihito YOSHIDA bug added subscriber Fumihito YOSHIDA
2011-09-15 10:44:51 Matthew Paul Thomas description unity 4.8.2-0ubuntu4, Ubuntu Ocelot Example A: 1. Open three LibreOffice Writer documents: X, then Y, then Z. 2. Copy some text from Z. 3. Try to use Alt Tab to switch to document X. Example B: 1. Focus a LibreOffice document, then a browser window, then another LibreOffice document. 2. Try to use Alt Tab to switch to the first LibreOffice document. What happens: You can't -- unless you know about, remember, and have a free hand available to use, the arrow keys while still holding down the Alt key. This behavior is inconsistent with what practically every current or potential Ubuntu user will expect, regardless of what they have been using previously: * In every previous version of Ubuntu, Alt Tab lets you switch between every window. * In every version of Windows, Alt Tab lets you switch between every window. * In every version of Mac OS X, Command Tab switches purely between applications, and there are other keyboard combos for switching between windows. Consistency of behavior in shortcut keys is more important than consistency of anything else in an interface. <http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html#consistency> Even if ease of migration was somehow not a concern, the design is wrong in at least three other ways. First, it is inconsistent with itself: the subset of windows that you can switch to with Alt Tab changes depending on which window is currently focused. Second, switching to a window outside this subset requires using two hands, when Alt Tab in one hand is very often used in combination with a mouse or touchpad in the other hand. And third, the overall result is that it is easier to switch to windows that you're *less* likely to want to switch to, and harder to switch to windows that you're *more* likely to want to switch to. What should happen: * Whatever visuals are applied to it, Alt Tab should switch strictly between windows by recency. * Any function for switching between applications should use a different keyboard combo. unity 4.8.2-0ubuntu4, Ubuntu Ocelot Example A: 1. Open three LibreOffice Writer documents: X, then Y, then Z. 2. Copy some text from Z. 3. Try to use Alt Tab to switch to document X. Example B: 1. Focus a LibreOffice document, then a browser window, then another LibreOffice document. 2. Try to use Alt Tab to switch to the first LibreOffice document. What happens: You can't -- unless you know about, remember, and have a free hand available to use, the arrow keys while still holding down the Alt key, or you know about and remember the Alt ` combo. This behavior is inconsistent with what practically every current or potential Ubuntu user will expect, regardless of what they have been using previously: * In every previous version of Ubuntu, Alt Tab lets you switch between every window. * In every version of Windows, Alt Tab lets you switch between every window. * In every version of Mac OS X, Command Tab switches purely between applications, and there are other keyboard combos for switching between windows. Consistency of behavior in shortcut keys is more important than consistency of anything else in an interface. <http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html#consistency> Even if ease of migration was somehow not a concern, the design is wrong in at least three other ways. First, it is inconsistent with itself: the subset of windows that you can switch to with Alt Tab changes depending on which window is currently focused. Second, switching to a window outside this subset requires using two hands, when Alt Tab in one hand is very often used in combination with a mouse or touchpad in the other hand. And third, the overall result is that it is easier to switch to windows that you're *less* likely to want to switch to, and harder to switch to windows that you're *more* likely to want to switch to. What should happen: * Whatever visuals are applied to it, Alt Tab should switch strictly between windows by recency. * Any function for switching between applications should use a different keyboard combo.
2011-09-15 14:59:07 John Lea ayatana-design: status New Opinion
2011-09-30 14:56:56 Didier Roche-Tolomelli unity (Ubuntu): status New Incomplete
2011-11-01 13:57:59 Jesse Glick bug added subscriber Jesse Glick
2011-12-05 17:18:11 Omer Akram unity: status Incomplete Opinion
2011-12-05 17:18:14 Omer Akram unity (Ubuntu): status Incomplete Opinion
2011-12-13 20:02:07 Matthew Paul Thomas ayatana-design: status Opinion New
2011-12-13 20:02:09 Matthew Paul Thomas ayatana-design: status New Invalid
2011-12-13 20:02:27 Matthew Paul Thomas ayatana-design: status Invalid New
2011-12-13 20:02:35 Matthew Paul Thomas unity: status Opinion New
2011-12-13 20:02:39 Matthew Paul Thomas unity (Ubuntu): status Opinion New
2011-12-13 20:02:46 Matthew Paul Thomas unity: status New Incomplete
2011-12-13 20:02:48 Matthew Paul Thomas unity (Ubuntu): status New Incomplete
2011-12-14 13:53:52 John Lea ayatana-design: status New Opinion
2011-12-14 13:53:57 John Lea unity: status Incomplete Opinion
2011-12-14 13:53:59 John Lea unity (Ubuntu): status Incomplete Opinion
2012-04-28 23:57:54 Bryan Alberto Baron Chinchilla bug added subscriber Bryan Alberto Baron Chinchilla