Julien, I appreciate your sentiment; But that is not a generally accepted view in HCI, and does not agree with the basic biomechanics of the human body. Shortest distance does not normally lead to the easiest way for the user to access some GUI element. Especially on a small screen, the easiest to hit is the location of the cursor (e.g. right click menu); and a close second would be one of the corner pixels of the display, and then the edges. Narrow menus under title bars are actually some of the most difficult scenarios to deal with, and really should never have been adopted for small to medium resolution screens; which only carried over in places like windows or Gnome2 for historical reasons and familiarity. It is generally better to use some type of menu at the screen corner/edge if the application window is sized to larger than a certain fraction of the linear screen resolution in the relevant dimensions (depending on corner or edge). The exact value is debatable, but the range is pretty well under consensus by a lot of people. This means that with exception to very few applications with excessively small windows (IM client, e.g.), the vast majority of applications on a medium resolution screen will benefit far more from global menus than from small, hard to hit menus under each title bar. This is without even mentioning the space savings and other benefits. For very high res screens, I do agree with you, there are scenarios where per window rendered menu system can be better. In those situations, it would make sense, for example, on a 2560x1600 screen to have several application windows occupy relatively small portions of the visible screen. But for these small corner cases, exceptions can be made at some configuration during installation or user account setup. In all other cases, it makes zero sense, and are prefered sometimes by certain users simply because of the inertia of their computing habits. And we certainly shouldn't try to force what you are suggesting on every user who have a small to medium res screen. On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Julien Olivier