Hidden music UDF not scanned by MusicScanner

[John A Meinel]

I have music stored, and can browse to it. I can easily download the files so they are available offline. I can click on a music file and it starts playing.
However, I cannot play the music in the background. Say I want to play music and do something else (eg file a bug in Launchpad). (karni: YES, it's a preview. We should fix that.)

I also have music streaming, but i want these offline. Also the ID tags are poor so U1 music doesn't seem to categorize it properly, some files don't seem to appear at all.

Is there some way I can get the Music app to recognize that the files U1 has downloaded are playable? (karni: NO)

[Martin Albisetti (beuno)]

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 12:12 AM, John A Meinel <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> I have music stored, and can browse to it. I can easily download the files so they are available offline. I can click on a music file and it starts playing.
> However, I cannot play the music in the background. Say I want to play music and do something else (eg file a bug in Launchpad).

I don't think I understand.
Why can't you play it in the background?
On Android you just hit the "home" button and it'll continue playing/

> I also have music streaming, but i want these offline. Also the ID tags
> are poor so U1 music doesn't seem to categorize it properly, some files
> don't seem to appear at all.

We will be importing metadata from third-party sources in the next 3
months or so to improve this.

> Is there some way I can get the Music app to recognize that the files U1
> has downloaded are playable?

This sounds like a bug, the native player on my phone sees all my U1
downloaded songs.

--
Martin

[Michał Karnicki (karni)]

Hello,

Thanks for taking time to report that issue. I understand what you mean - the preview player which launches from Ubuntu One Files (although I'd expect a regular player and this may be vendor-specific) is not really useful. You'll kill the preview if you leave the app. I can confirm this issue on Android 2.3.3 running HTC Sense UI.

[John A Meinel (jameinel)]

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On 10/31/2011 04:10 PM, Martin Albisetti wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 12:12 AM, John A Meinel
> <email address hidden> wrote:
>>
>> I have music stored, and can browse to it. I can easily download
>> the files so they are available offline. I can click on a music
>> file and it starts playing. However, I cannot play the music in
>> the background. Say I want to play music and do something else
>> (eg file a bug in Launchpad).
>
> I don't think I understand. Why can't you play it in the
> background? On Android you just hit the "home" button and it'll
> continue playing/
>

Not on mine. If I use U1 Music App to play the music, then I can hit
home and it plays in the background.

If I use U1 Files App then it plays in the foreground and hitting Home
closes the program and stops the music.

>> I also have music streaming, but i want these offline. Also the
>> ID tags are poor so U1 music doesn't seem to categorize it
>> properly, some files don't seem to appear at all.
>
> We will be importing metadata from third-party sources in the next
> 3 months or so to improve this.
>
>
>> Is there some way I can get the Music app to recognize that the
>> files U1 has downloaded are playable?
>
> This sounds like a bug, the native player on my phone sees all my
> U1 downloaded songs.
>
>

If I use U1 Music app to play the music, then Android Music sees the
files. If I use U1 Files app to download the .mp3 file, I cannot find
it in the list of music shown by Android Music.

John
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[John A Meinel (jameinel)]

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On 11/01/2011 12:35 PM, Michał Karnicki wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thanks for taking time to report that issue. I understand what you
> mean - the preview player which launches from Ubuntu One Files
> (although I'd expect a regular player and this may be
> vendor-specific) is not really useful. You'll kill the preview if
> you leave the app. I can confirm this issue on Android 2.3.3
> running HTC Sense UI.
>
> ** Changed in: ubuntuone-android-music Status: New => Invalid
>
> ** Changed in: ubuntuone-android-files Status: New => Confirmed
>
> ** Changed in: ubuntuone-android-files Assignee: (unassigned) =>
> Michał Karnicki (karni)
>
> ** Changed in: ubuntuone-android-files Importance: Undecided =>
> Low
>

The reason I listed both is because ubuntuone-android-files and
ubuntuone-android-music aren't talking to each other. I'm not sure if
- -files needs to save the content somewhere so -music can see it, or if
- -music needs to be looking where -files is saving the data.

John
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[Michał Karnicki (karni)]

ubuntuone-android-music is an app designed strictly to stream the music. It does not look at files downloaded by ubuntuone-android-files, nor at local storage (files put on the SD card by the user).

As for Ubuntu One Files and a downloaded mp3, the file will be added to the library after a while. We should run a scanner to make it appear instantly, which would at least partially solve the issue, as you could play them using the default player.

[John A Meinel (jameinel)]

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On 11/01/2011 05:05 PM, Michał Karnicki wrote:
> ubuntuone-android-music is an app designed strictly to stream the
> music. It does not look at files downloaded by
> ubuntuone-android-files, nor at local storage (files put on the SD
> card by the user).

- -music does allow downloading the content locally, and that appears to
show up for the built-in Music application.

- -files allows downloading the content locally, but does not show up in
Music.

As a user, it doesn't make sense that they don't see eachother's data.

>
> As for Ubuntu One Files and a downloaded mp3, the file will be
> added to the library after a while. We should run a scanner to make
> it appear instantly, which would at least partially solve the
> issue, as you could play them using the default player.
>

What is 'after a while', and 'added to the library'. Which library,
the U1 Music library (on the U1 servers), or my local Android library?

Possible things I would have liked to see:

1) Downloading the file locally makes it show up in the local music
content. So at least "Music" can play the file, even if "Ubuntu One
Music" cannot.

2) Clicking on a file in Ubuntu One Files launches Music (or Ubuntu
One Music) to play the file, rather than the modal player.

3) Wherever Ubuntu One Music stores the local cached music files could
be shared with where Ubuntu One Files stores the cached downloaded files.

4) Being able to browse by path to the music file, rather than only by
tag information.

[1] Side note: While trying to search again on Music Streaming, the
Android app crashed, restarting it I think I did find some of the
missing files under the "Unknown Artist Unknown Album Unknown Title".
It is quite a bit harder to identify it, when I already know the path
to the file.
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