Nautilus desktop icons should never be under the launcher

[Didier Roche-Tolomelli]

Nautilus desktop icons should not be allowed below the launcher (with or without the autohide mode). That will avoid flickering when people wants to switch between the two modes.

Same reasoning will go then for preventing nautilus resizing itself when the launcher is not in autohide mode. It should just crop the wallpaper (and thus, not reacting to _NET_WM_STRUT).

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

seems it's going to be non trivial to get, especially if the position is stored in the configuration and you switch between classic and unity session, do we really need to do this one?

[Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl)]

I would do it for all Nautilus, regardless of classic or desktop.

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

the extra margin which look like a bug on the classic edition though since there is no launcher or anything over this space, what issue do we try to solve exactly? icons don't go under the launcher space by default or when auto aligning the icons, they will only do for users who decide to go in manual layout and put something there, it doesn't seem worth adding hacks over hacks just to prevent those users to use the space under the launcher?

[Martin Pitt (pitti)]

Sebastien Bacher [2011-01-05 16:27 -0000]:
> the extra margin which look like a bug on the classic edition though
> since there is no launcher or anything over this space, what issue do we
> try to solve exactly? icons don't go under the launcher space by default
> or when auto aligning the icons, they will only do for users who decide
> to go in manual layout and put something there

That seems to be very easy to get into, though? I noticed this myself
when switching to unity, the left column of desktop icons got hidden.
They were originally layed out automatically, then I moved some of
them around a little.

Now I manually moved them all a step to the right, but of course that
requires getting rid of the launcher first; I used gconf-editor to
enable autohiding, but now it appears again on an empty desktop.

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

ok, seems indeed that the default left margin is not enough to be out of the launcher space, maybe we should just set the value so they don't get under the launcher without blocking manual placement, that should be enough for most cases and much easier than trying to block users screen space from manual placements done by users

[slmb (fqa101)]

I hope change Nautilus
Me a better alternative and I hope to be PCManFM
Please do not want Nautilus

[Paul Sladen (sladen)]

slmb: if you've got a better long-term suggestion for a mature file-manager (other than Nautilus), please file a new bug report to suggest it... at the moment the important focus is to incrementally fix the software we /have/ step-by-step than switch to complete unknowns for tasks that users depend on for their day-to-day working.

[Launchpad Janitor (janitor)]

This bug was fixed in the package nautilus - 1:2.32.2.1-0ubuntu2

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nautilus (1:2.32.2.1-0ubuntu2) natty; urgency=low

  * debian/patches/04_additional_marge_for_unity.patch:
    - ensure we don't move desktop icons when locking or unlocking the unity
      launcher (LP: #684649)
 -- Didier Roche <email address hidden> Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:15:49 +0100

[Stefan Glasenhardt (glasen)]

Would it not be better to add an additional gconf-key to enable the additional margin in Unity instead of hard-coding it into the binary? Or maybe a new startup option which only Unity calls (Like "--unity-mode")? Or maybe Nautilus should look for a variable like "UNITY_EXTRA_MARGIN" or something else?

At the moment the extra margin is very annoying when using the classic mode.

[Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl)]

This is a Seb call.

[Coz (cosimo321)]

hey guys...

  As i recall.. sometime back... when the auto-hide was enabled in ccsm. unity plugin...the launcher panel would be hidden until moused over and the icons would shift position when it came out of auto-hide,,,, I may be remembering that wishfully.
   Most definitely a visual bug.. and I am guessing it will be commented on by many, because most of us are not going to be using Unity at all.. especially with dual monitor set up,,, the Global menu on a dual monitor system delays work time significantly, so Unity is useless in that senario.
   As an artist...this looks as though my nephew came into my computer room and purposely moved my desktop icons over to irritate me, then locked them into position.

Maybe two releases,,, Unity1 11.04 and Natty 11.04

[Coz (cosimo321)]

Hey guys,
  an addendum...
  I have used both mac and pc with linux... the statement about global menu applies to mac as well... on a wide screen and especially on dual monitors...it is a very bad design at its basic concept...
    Productivity is severely compromised with global menu / mac menus...on larger real estate set ups like dual monitors, so many, as I mentioned on the previous post, are not going to be using Unity at all...which brings me back to ...why not two releases??
Unity 1 and Natty..
It relieves the pressure to solve a bug on unity that was caused by changing something in gnome and visa versa.
Unity is strictly netbook...not for desktops ..
The combination of both on one release only suggests more problem solving than would normally be necessary or desired.

[Didier Roche-Tolomelli (didrocks)]

I will change to only add the extra margin when unity is running, but if you switch between sessions, you can get icons on the desktop that moves from the extreme right to the left because of the icon desktop area is different between them.

The current margin is a little bit too much (I just added the offset of the unity panel), I will just set it to a lower value as well.

[Didier Roche-Tolomelli (didrocks)]

Now nautilus listen dynamically if unity is running or not to decide to add the extra margin. See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/1:2.32.2.1-0ubuntu4

[Michael Martin-Smucker (mmartinsmucker)]

Is this really fixed? I'm using the final release of Ubuntu 11.04, and I have a whole row of icons on my desktop that are almost completely obscured by the Unity launcher.

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

it's fixed in the nautilus natty version, do you maybe use a ppa, elementary, GNOME3 or other build?

[Michael Martin-Smucker (mmartinsmucker)]

Thanks Sebastien! I'm using nautilus-elementary, so that explains it.

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

could you open a new bug rather than adding elementary to this one? that will avoid email spamming the unity team about elementary discussions

[Michael Martin-Smucker (mmartinsmucker)]

That's a fair request. For anyone using nautilus-elementary who may find this report in the future, see here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus-elementary/+bug/775727

[Rolf Leggewie (r0lf)]

natty has seen the end of its life and is no longer receiving any updates. Marking the natty task for this ticket as "Won't Fix".