Comment 5 for bug 1500307

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Jonathan Joseph Chiarella (jonathan-chiarella-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

Problem is still active as of 16.10. Otherwise, a very happy camper.

There are niggling Ubuntu-isms like that Unity Music Menu and Messaging Menu, but they are easily replaced/disabled/uninstalled. Still unable to figure how to edit configuration files to fix Synaptic. Yet other root apps activated via pkexec work as expected. Is there something particular to Ubuntu or to the Debian app, Synaptic, specifically?

It's not huge, but it's a bit disorienting, especially since the rest of the desktop uses solid scrollbars. Frankly, it really only works on mobile or small screen or touch interfaces. Mouse-users need to know where to put the mouse and jiggling the cursor to make scrollbars appear before clicking on the section where the page is on the scrollbar (the off-colored block), is not much fun.

Probably the biggest complaint after not having Linux installations run popular Windows apps, is the lack of consistency. Synaptic doesn't make the library/executable distinction obvious, but I still recommend it for newbies. The command line is scary and the Ubuntu Software Center and every DE native installer (Gnome, KDE Apper, etc) are unstable and/or slow as molasses. Using a search text box in Synaptic, on the other hand, isn't far from typing in "0AD" into Google and looking for the .exe. The overlays only work with GTK3 apps anyhow. So, even if you love them, running any Gtk2 or Qt apps ruins the consistency and makes the desktop look more like a jerry rig.

Sorry for the rant. It's really more the Gnome people making things difficult for anything non-Gnome and assumes no other software will ever be installed. At least, they made Gtk3 dialogs behave with normal ssd outside Gnome and Gnome app menus have a sane fallback. Hearing "where did the scrollbar go?" is not a good thing to hear when converting people. On the plus side, Gtk 3 finally stabilized everything with 3.20 and 3.22 will be viable for some time and does Wayland. Then we can put this behind us. (I hope)